Barnes and the .270 win

Rather than being marginal, to the contrary the 270 is more than enough gun for moose. A lot of guys up here carry them for everything. A good friend of mine regularly whacks grizzlies with his old Parker-Hale. The last one, a huge old boar, went down on the spot with a 150 gr Nosler Partition.

Ted
 
Huntsman said:
Please explain? This could save me a future purchase.
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The box stated at least a 1 in 9 twist bbl , because copper is lighter than lead the tsx ttsx bullet's are much longer than traditional lead core bullet's .

So they require a greater rate of twist , I have a 1 in 10 . I did notice that the faster I drove them the better they shot . Maybe a WSM or a Weatherby with a 1 in 10 bbl would shoot them ? But my 270 win wont
 
I have two 270's, a Win and a Wby. The Win likes RL22 behind 130 gr Barnes X bullets. Tiny little groups. I swapped with my brother for this rifle a long time back, and was going to rebarrel it as I really don't care for the 270 Win. But it shot so well that I decided to keep it. It doesn't kill any better then the 280/7x64 (or even the 7mm-08) though. - dan
 
mahony1977 said:
The box stated at least a 1 in 9 twist bbl , because copper is lighter than lead the tsx ttsx bullet's are much longer than traditional lead core bullet's .

So they require a greater rate of twist , I have a 1 in 10 . I did notice that the faster I drove them the better they shot . Maybe a WSM or a Weatherby with a 1 in 10 bbl would shoot them ? But my 270 win wont
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Works for me, I just saved some money :D
Thanks :)
 
mahony1977 said:
The box stated at least a 1 in 9 twist bbl , because copper is lighter than lead the tsx ttsx bullet's are much longer than traditional lead core bullet's .

So they require a greater rate of twist , I have a 1 in 10 . I did notice that the faster I drove them the better they shot . Maybe a WSM or a Weatherby with a 1 in 10 bbl would shoot them ? But my 270 win wont
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As I mentioned earlier, I settled on the 130gr TTSX. After some of the comments, I checked in their #4 manual and for use of the 150gr they do state, "a 1:9.5" or faster twist is recommended for the 150gr TSX" .
 
The .270 with 130 gr tsx bullets would be perfectly fine for moose. I doubt you'd see much better performance with a .338win. Really.

For black bear, coyote and punching paper you don't need a fancy bullet. A 130 grain sierra gameking/prohunter or a speer hot-cor would work just great, and cost way less $$.
So get your .270 [nice choice!] and some sierra's or speers. Load'em up with H4831 or H4350 at about 3000 to 3100 fps. Kill all the 'yotes, blackbears and paper you want.

If and when you want to kill a moose, don't let all the .338 fanboys get you down. Just load up some 130 tsx and go kill the moose.

Have fun!
 
I use 150gr Nosler BTs for deer in my 270Win. They measure 1.350" in length and shoot quite well. The Barnes 150gr TSX is 1.379" long. The difference between the two is .029" or the equivalent of 8 pages on a sticky pad.

I'd say the Barnes would have a good chance of shooting well as do other 150s.

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Huntsman said:
Just the Barnes TSX for 150gr then? All others are adequate (Nosler, Hornady etc)?
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First off, and a bit of recent history. The Husqvarna 270 Win I acquired from a guy on site, Why not? , is the first 270 I've owned, shot and reloaded for so my experience the with caliber is somewhat limited. A check in the reference section of my Sierra manual, and apparently my 270, a Husqvarna, has a 1 in 9 1/2" twist.

The statement I made on the recommendation by Barnes concerning the twist rate when using their 150gr bullets is located in a dialogue box posted under the load list table for the 150gr, on page 160 of their #4 manual. I did do a quick check in the the following manuals, Sierra, Hodgdon, Speer, Nosler, Hornady and Lyman and the firearms they all used had a 1 - 10" twist rate. A couple like Lyman and Nosler tested and posted loads using bullets up to 160gr with no mention made of a different twist rate for them. Hodgdon even had loads listed for a 180gr bullet, still, nothing other than a 1 - 10" twist mentioned. Best I can do for you;), and me:).
 
SuperCub said:
I use 150gr Nosler BTs for deer in my 270Win. They measure 1.350" in length and shoot quite well. The Barnes 150gr TSX is 1.379" long. The difference between the two is .029" or the equivalent of 8 pages on a sticky pad.

I'd say the Barnes would have a good chance of shooting well as do other 150s.

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Well SC, since my Model 70 is a 1:10 twist I'm gonna have to pass;)

As for all other bullets, I think I'll give Nosler a go!
 
chuck nelson said:
Here is my observation for what it is worth. I have used the X, XLC, TSX, and TTSX more than any other bullet. The TSX is by far my favorite of the bunch because it, in my observation, provides more dramatic results. I believe it opens quicker than all of the other Barnes offerings. This seems strange when comparing it to the TTSX, but after seeing firsthand what the TTSX didn't do I called Barnes. Apparently the TTSX's are "harder" in their makeup which I think causes them to open less dramatically than the TSX.
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Interesting. After shooting many X/TSX/TTSX bullets into targets and game, and discussing the results in great detail with John Barsness, we both agree that we've seen the opposite effect! The TTSX tends to open up quicker and wider than the TSX, from what both of us have seen. The TSX tends to penetrate slightly more and make a slightly narrower wound channel than the TTSX. They're both fantastic bullets.
 
SuperCub said:
I use 150gr Nosler BTs for deer in my 270Win. They measure 1.350" in length and shoot quite well. The Barnes 150gr TSX is 1.379" long. The difference between the two is .029" or the equivalent of 8 pages on a sticky pad.

I'd say the Barnes would have a good chance of shooting well as do other 150s.

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Maybe my rifle just didn't like em , like I posted previous they did seem to work better a higher velocities , max or slightly over max load . Would the profile possibly have something to do with it ? The 150 TSX is a fb lots of bullet on bore . & I was stuck on getting them to work with IMR 4350 or RL22
 
If the twist rate of your tube is a little slow to properly stabilize the bullet, extra velocity can sometimes help to compensate. That may be why you saw better accuracy as the velocity increased. Either that or you started off right between two accuracy nodes.
 
Jordan Smith said:
Interesting. After shooting many X/TSX/TTSX bullets into targets and game, and discussing the results in great detail with John Barsness, we both agree that we've seen the opposite effect! The TTSX tends to open up quicker and wider than the TSX, from what both of us have seen. The TSX tends to penetrate slightly more and make a slightly narrower wound channel than the TTSX. They're both fantastic bullets.
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Based on my experience and what Barnes says I will continue to disagree with you.
 
What-ever happened to the winchester failsafe? Was it too similar to a barnes? My first rifle was a .270 and I used 140 grn failsafes for years on a lot of game including moose; it was always a flawless performer....
 
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