Barnes bullets

180gr TTSX is quite a bullet, especially in a 308. I wonder why you wouldn't go with a 165? In the 308 it should perform quite nicely. Heavy for caliber bullets also tend to be quite long when you build them out of pure copper I believe that was the reason I couldn't get decent velocity out of the 286gr TSX in the 9.3x62. Randy Brooks says you can step down one bullet weight with his bullets and from seeing how the bullets have performed for others I would tend to believe it. In large cases it is less critical than in smaller ones, obviously.
 
I'd forget about 180 grain TTSX or TSXs in a .308, and think about 150 or even 130s. The Barnes don't need weight, they need speed. You can expect to lose ground when comparing TSXs to conventional bullets at moderate velocities.
 
I don't know why anyone would even consider a TSX or TTSX in a 308, this cartridge is the epitome of perfection for the correct working velocities of C+C bullets............It most certainly does NOT need premium or homogenous bullets to perform admirably.
 
c-fbmi said:
I don't know why anyone would even consider a TSX or TTSX in a 308, this cartridge is the epitome of perfection for the correct working velocities of C+C bullets............It most certainly does NOT need premium or homogenous bullets to perform admirably.
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Yeah, that is like running premium gas in a Lada...lol
 
You would see as good or even better performance from a Speer 165 grn or even a Sierra, personally I shoot 150 gn Nosler Solid Base, these are leftovers from rifle silhouette days and I have about 1000 of them. They work flawlessly in the 308.
 
After all these years I find it damn odd that so many supposed experienced hunters fail to grasp how the X bullet works. It's easy, pick the lightest X bullet for the caliber that you intend use, drive it as fast as possible. 3500 fps is good, 4000fps is better. Aim for bone and fill your tag. It really is as simple as that.
 
JJ-65 said:
After all these years I find it damn odd that so many supposed experienced hunters fail to grasp how the X bullet works. It's easy, pick the lightest X bullet for the caliber that you intend use, drive it as fast as possible. 3500 fps is good, 4000fps is better. Aim for bone and fill your tag. It really is as simple as that.
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I don't think my 338wm will drive 225gr X bullets at that velocity.:rolleyes: It would be nice though.
 
JJ-65 said:
After all these years I find it damn odd that so many supposed experienced hunters fail to grasp how the X bullet works. It's easy, pick the lightest X bullet for the caliber that you intend use, drive it as fast as possible. 3500 fps is good, 4000fps is better. Aim for bone and fill your tag. It really is as simple as that.
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are you serious?
 
d6dan said:
I don't think my 338wm will drive 225gr X bullets at that velocity.:rolleyes: It would be nice though.
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Which means that the 338 is also not a good cartridge for X type bullets and works perfectly with C+C bullets with it's moderate velocities, really just an oversized 308 if you look at it's ballistics............
 
kevlar900rr said:
That is where I got them! I use 180 grain in my .308 ,30/06 and .300 Weatherby I like them and I only have to buy I type of bullet. The Barnes are new to me though. I prefer Nosler Accubonds or Ballistic tips
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If I were you I would stick with the accubonds and ballistic tips especially in the 308. Even then I have found the 180's to give up a bit to much wound diameter due to the lower speeds. My favourite is the 165g Hornady boat tail interlock for deer and larger game.

Save the TTSX for the weatherby if you must try them.
 
I agree with those that say C&C bullets work great in a 308 win for hunting. I've been loading 180 Hornady BTSP with 45.4 of IMR-4064 in win cases. Don't see a need to change to anything else. :)
 
I have used 150 and 168 gn TTSX in my 300 Wby briefly and did use the 168 TTSX bullet and load combo to take my Altai Argali..........but have since gone back to old school of weight and BC over fancy bullets..........I load 200 gn ABs and 200 gn Parts for my 300 now and probably will end out my hunting days with these bullets in this rifle and caliber. There just is no down side to this load, and it shoots just as flat over reasonable hunting ranges and hits like lightning..........I can see no upside to the Barnes in my 300 Wby, and I'm not cleaning copper fouling out every week using the Noslers.
The only rifle I have used the TSX bullets in that I still do, and will continue to do, is my Rem 700 in .375 H&H. It is a penetrating, killing machine with the TSX and shoots sub MOA consistently. It also shoots very flat for caliber and makes hitting critters out beyond 300 mtrs with this rifle and load not just possible, but actually quite easy. I'm getting 2925 fps with the 270 gn TSX, which is enough to open it up within the ranges I use this rifle but seems to fall below the nasty, accuracy destroying, copper fouling threshold that I have experienced in several other rifles, of higher velocity.
And before a group of you jump all over me and say 2925 isn't possible safely in a 375 H&H with a 270 gn bullet, let me assure you in this rifle it most certainly is. Not only is it safe, I have used it in 55 degree heat in Zambia and equatorial heat and humidity in Congo and have never even loosened a primer pocket. And this isn't even using W-W brass, it's using R-P brass, if I could get some W-W brass for it I could likely get another 75-100 fps from it.

I actually did pick up 200 new W-W brass in 375 H&H but I will not be using it for the H&H, I'm saving it specifically for my 340 Wby, where I will need the extra capacity and toughness of the W-W brass...........;);)
 
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