Barnes Bullets
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Only in my 30-30.They work fine.
I shot a deer with my 30-06 with an X-bullet that failed.Shot it up hill quartaring sharp towards me.When cutting the deer up I found the bullet against the spine over the hind quarters with no expantion only rifling markes on it.
I shot a deer with my 30-06 with an X-bullet that failed.Shot it up hill quartaring sharp towards me.When cutting the deer up I found the bullet against the spine over the hind quarters with no expantion only rifling markes on it.
The original X bullets were designed for deep penetration on large critters.
For deer, much better to go with Barnes triple shock (tsx). The first stage of the bullet opens up at low speeds, around 1200 ft/s IIRC. I had 165gr tsx's in my 308 last year but unfortunately didn't find a deer I could shoot so someone else will have to report results.
For deer, much better to go with Barnes triple shock (tsx). The first stage of the bullet opens up at low speeds, around 1200 ft/s IIRC. I had 165gr tsx's in my 308 last year but unfortunately didn't find a deer I could shoot so someone else will have to report results.
The TSX bullets open up fast and retian weight, penetrate well.
If I was *only* hunting deer I woudln't bother wiht the added expense, but if you are like me, deer, moose, elk, bear and samsquantch coudl be on the menu.
If I was *only* hunting deer I woudln't bother wiht the added expense, but if you are like me, deer, moose, elk, bear and samsquantch coudl be on the menu.
I've been using the 130 gr TSX in my 270 WSM and my buddy uses the 130 gr TSX in his 270 Win. for the last couple of hunting seasons. I've seen 5 mule deer, 2 whitetails, and one pronghorn shot with them and they work really well on smaller game from what I've seen. Like Gatehouse said, they're not really needed for deer sized game, but they do open up and they seem to be very accurate from my observations. Order the free Barnes DVD... it's just an info-mercial for their own product, but it's kind of cool to watch.
www.barnesbullets.com
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I've dropped 7 deer to date (4 with standard X's, 3 with TSX's) with my .280 Rem, they all dropped in their tracks. Ranges varied from 20 yds to 270 yds, neck shots, headshots and lungshots. It may be a little overkill for deer but I use the same load for moose and elk too.
IMHO, the best all round game bullet going. I use a 168 gr TSX in both my 300 win mag at 3200 fps and my sons 30-06 at 2800. The bullets perform perfectly at both velocities, they open fast, they are really accurate and they penetrate deeply.
I've shot or watched at least 12 deer, a really big moose, a coyote and 1 raven shot with TSX bullets ranging from 130 gr in a 260 at 2700 to a 168 at 3200 and all velocities in between. The coyote was a head shot by my son at around 200 yards with a 130 gr from a 270 and I swear it opened on the hair, the raven was a couple of years ago at about 100 yards from a 300 WSM(it basically exploded), the moose I shot last year was over 1000 lbs, shot with the 300 win mag and the 168. Impact velocity would have been about 2800 fps(the shot was just over 200 yards), it took out a rib going in , both lungs, the top of the heart, broke the shoulder blade on the far side and lodged in the skin. The moose went about 5 yards, and the bullet weighed 167 grs.
With the TSX, Barnes has solved all the problems they had with the older X bullets, they are accurate, they don't foul barrels, they open reliably and they stil penetrate like crazy.
In short, as close to prefection as I have used.
I've shot or watched at least 12 deer, a really big moose, a coyote and 1 raven shot with TSX bullets ranging from 130 gr in a 260 at 2700 to a 168 at 3200 and all velocities in between. The coyote was a head shot by my son at around 200 yards with a 130 gr from a 270 and I swear it opened on the hair, the raven was a couple of years ago at about 100 yards from a 300 WSM(it basically exploded), the moose I shot last year was over 1000 lbs, shot with the 300 win mag and the 168. Impact velocity would have been about 2800 fps(the shot was just over 200 yards), it took out a rib going in , both lungs, the top of the heart, broke the shoulder blade on the far side and lodged in the skin. The moose went about 5 yards, and the bullet weighed 167 grs.
With the TSX, Barnes has solved all the problems they had with the older X bullets, they are accurate, they don't foul barrels, they open reliably and they stil penetrate like crazy.
In short, as close to prefection as I have used.
I shot a bear and a deer a few years ago with my 270 win and a 130 gr and X bullets worked 100% the way it should have and equal expansion on both animals love them for moose, loaded up a few boxes of tripple shocks for my 30-378 and 300 wm for an elk hunt, awesome accurate bullet.
For deer only, time tested slugs like the Core-Lokt, Hornady InterLock, Sierra GameKing etc are more than good enough, and have done the job for a long time.
As others have said, the TSX seems to be an all around great projectile, while the traditional X bullets are for penetration primarily.
As others have said, the TSX seems to be an all around great projectile, while the traditional X bullets are for penetration primarily.
- Location
- The Conservative part of Ontario
Western guys love 'em, eastern guys don't need 'em (except the farm'n field crowd).
Our up close and personal hunting style requires no fancy stuff.
Our up close and personal hunting style requires no fancy stuff.
- Location
- Ft. Mac. Alberta
I've used them, as well as the XLC's and standarrd X bullets.
Been killing stuff for over 40 years and haven't seen much difference in ANY bullet as long as the placement was good.
I have seen X bullet s screw up, Game Kings Screw up, paritions screw up, everything.
All these screwed up bullets were taken from dead animals, mind you.
But these are not the norm.
All bullets mentioned work well for the velocities they are designed for, normally.
In a modern hunting bullet I go accurcy first, then look at all the other things the bullet is supposed to do.
If it won't go where you aim it, forgetaboutit!
Cat
Been killing stuff for over 40 years and haven't seen much difference in ANY bullet as long as the placement was good.
I have seen X bullet s screw up, Game Kings Screw up, paritions screw up, everything.
All these screwed up bullets were taken from dead animals, mind you.
But these are not the norm.
All bullets mentioned work well for the velocities they are designed for, normally.
In a modern hunting bullet I go accurcy first, then look at all the other things the bullet is supposed to do.
If it won't go where you aim it, forgetaboutit!
Cat
It took a lot of convincing to try the TSXs, since my accuracy results with the old X bullets was poor. I shot 15 big-game animals with TSXs last year, plus 3 with other bullets. Everything died, and nothing got mangled. I found just one TSX, after 4 feet of penetration that included a shoulder. I also pulled a 180 grain 30 caliber Partition out of a broadside lung hit deer.That one suprised me, a .300 Win Mag stops in a whitetail?
You don't "need" premium bullets to hunt deer, but what's need got to do with anything? The Barnes doesn't make a mess, for those who care about that and penetrate better than anything I've shot. They seem to have the accuracy issues sorted out as well.
You don't "need" premium bullets to hunt deer, but what's need got to do with anything? The Barnes doesn't make a mess, for those who care about that and penetrate better than anything I've shot. They seem to have the accuracy issues sorted out as well.
catnthehatt said:All these screwed up bullets were taken from dead animals, mind you.
But these are not the norm.
I can not see how a bullet taken from a dead animal could be thought of as a screw up, unless it was hit by a truck after a less than lethal shotIf by screw up you mean, too much meat damage and not enough penetration, knowing the strength and weakness of an individual bullet and bullet placement will help. All bullets may fail under certain conditions. Many seem to be a compromise between adequate penetration and adequate expansion. Knowing which of these two properties they favor will help in bullet selection and should be kept in mind for bullet placement.
Well, Riden and I just came from P&D (holy #### the people at P&D are nice.) and I bought a box of .30 cal 165 Speer Spitzers for plinking, a box of 6.5 95 gr v-max for my newly aquired 6.5 x 55 swede and a box of .30 cal 165 Barnes TSX for my .308.
Holy #### the people at P&D are nice.
I can't wait to load some and get out to the range.
Think I'll grab some old magazines from the local store and make a temporary box O' truth so I can retrieve some of these rounds.
Holy #### the people at P&D are nice.
I can't wait to load some and get out to the range.
Think I'll grab some old magazines from the local store and make a temporary box O' truth so I can retrieve some of these rounds.
