Barnes TSX and TTSX questions

Interesting. I know that people have had expansion failures from Barnes and I've seen pics of the bullets. Although often the indications are that they tumbled on impact. I haven't had a failure yet so I still use them, among other bullets.

I've had Ballistic Tips fail (over expansion at high velocity impact) and I had Nosler Partitions "fail" in that they got stopped by a big bears spine, tumbled and lost their rear core. Broke the vertebrae after going through hide and back fat, but didn't go any deeper. I've also seen Barnes bullets leave small entrance and exit wounds but the internal organs looked like jellied tomato soup

Bullets can do weird things. Ultimately, people should just pick the bullet that gives them confidence.

This has been my experience with the 150 TTSX 7mm. Quite impressive. All bang flops so far. No bullets recovered. My most recent bull moose had no lungs left inside, just “tomato soup”.
 
360 yard expansion testing. Medium- Moose soft tissue- no bone impacted

Barnes 180gr TSX .308 caliber

Impact velocity 2275 fps

Retained weight -most of it

Expanded diameter- all the way

Penetration- One broadside moose

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There are lots more real world examples on the intraweb, of course. Most of the Barnes bullets I've shot at animals end up exiting and never seen again....


Also, your picture shows a pretty anemic example. A 7-08 using a 120gr TTSX should be going around 2250+ FPS at 300 yards. So I'm not sure what cartridge is used to dribble along at 2044 fps.



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It’s hard to argue with your experience and track record but is football size holes really the new goal post and wrist size holes considered poor performance?

If the goal is animals getting dead as fast as possible, its hard to not realize that the biggest hole is generally going to provide that service more often than not.
 
The two bullets I’ve killed the most game with are the Nosler Ballistic tip, and the Barnes X of some flavour. If there was a marked difference in animal travel between them I don’t know that it would be quantifiable. Neither has required a course in tracking, both have resulted in animals running some distance, both have resulted in animals reacting like the rug had been pulled out from underneath them, both have been recovered at times, both have passed clean through after experiencing significant resistance etc. But without fail, when headed in the right direction, the Barnes bullet will reach the vitals from just about any angle imaginable. I have never not seen it do that.
 
The two bullets I’ve killed the most game with are the Nosler Ballistic tip, and the Barnes X of some flavour. If there was a marked difference in animal travel between them I don’t know that it would be quantifiable. Neither has required a course in tracking, both have resulted in animals running some distance, both have resulted in animals reacting like the rug had been pulled out from underneath them, both have been recovered at times, both have passed clean through after experiencing significant resistance etc. But without fail, when headed in the right direction, the Barnes bullet will reach the vitals from just about any angle imaginable. I have never not seen it do that.


I'm similar except it's been Barnes and Nosler Partition

Mostly the difference I've seen is that the Partition leaves a large amount of shrapnel in the carcass. All the animals died fast.

But I've used almost all styles of bullets, as have most of us that have hunted awhile.

I think there is no doubt that on a broadside shot with a fast expanding bullet it will drop animals quickly. We all know a regular cup and core 180gr from a 30-06 will kill a moose.

I just like a bullet that can get the job done regardless of perfect broadside shot presentation, and Barnes does that.

But again- use the bullet you have confidence in.
 
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