barnes TTSX 180 in a 30:06

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I'm going to be loading some of these up in a Remington 700 BDL 1 in 10" twist.

Anyone got any good recipes to share? I have RL17, Varget, IMR4064, IMR4895, H4895, H414, H335 at the ready. I've been to the barnes site and got the info there, just hoping someone has been down this road already and will save me some $1 a piece bullets!
 
No loads to share but some things I have learned about mono bullets. Usually you go lighter then standard. They need speed and lots of it. When you think it is fast you need to pour on more.

I had emailed barnes about speeds needed to open ttsx reliably. The reply I got stated that they are designed to open at 2000fps but recommended at least 2200fps. Said the faster the impact speed the better they will perform.
 
hometownhero said:
No loads to share but some things I have learned about mono bullets. Usually you go lighter then standard. They need speed and lots of it. When you think it is fast you need to pour on more.

I had emailed barnes about speeds needed to open ttsx reliably. The reply I got stated that they are designed to open at 2000fps but recommended at least 2200fps. Said the faster the impact speed the better they will perform.
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I agree,
In this instance the 165 gr mono bullet would perform better, in 24" barrel they can be shot 3000 fps with case full of H414 and magnum primer.
For 308 Win I use 150 mono bullet with great results as well.
 
In reality, the lighter bullet will work better, as a couple of posters noted. But if you are shooting
those 180's, the powders you list are a bit on the fast side for best 30-06 velocities.
I would be looking at IMR 4831, Reloder 19 or 22, IMR or H 4350, IMR 4451, Superformance, 100V, Vihtavuori N160/560, etc.
Dave.
 
Dang it, a wise friend of mine told me to get the 150's! I was then thinking 168's but got the 180's because I thought they would be well stocked in stores. So to make matters worst, I bought another two boxes of the 180's....

I guess I'll buy some powder and try them out.
 
my '06 likes RL17 with the barnes bullets. Weatherby backcountry with 24" barrel will push the 175 lrx at 2825fps, and will push the 200 lrx at 2640fps, both very accurate loads. just remember with the barnes to jump em into the lands. I load barnes in about a dozen different rifles and they all like a minimum .050 off the lands with most falling between .070 and .110 off.

Good luck!
Chris
 
Thanks willyqbc, I now have 150 of the bullets and a pound of RL17 and Superformance. I've read about giving the bullets a bit of a jump and I find this works for most of my loads (non-barnes). I'll load some test rounds out tonight and will give them a run tomorrow.
 
Getting a hunting rifle to shoot TSXs isn't much of a trick; in fact if they don't shoot you're going to have trouble getting anything to shoot. It doesn't amount to much more than seating .050 or so off the lands and finding a decent, working maximum load. The fastest, cheapest way to do that is start at minimum and load one cartridge at each charge level. Using completely made up numbers say one each at 50, 51, 52 and so on up to whatever the Barnes manual gives as a max or a bit past if you are feeling adventurous. Shoot those in order, at the same target until you either reach the book max or you get an extractor mark or other obvious pressure sign. Doing it over a chronograph is a nice touch; if you've reached max and believe that you can swim faster you can quit and save the bullets. Back off two grains, and load 9 of those. Don't clean the gun. Come back and shoot 3 cold groups and see what youve got. Chances are, you're done. If you feel like it, you can play with seating depth, but do it in big changes like .020 or .030 at a time. In the unlikely event that it shoots terrible after the 3, 3 shot groups you are probably better off starting over with another powder.

Chances are you will be happier with a lighter bullet.
 
one other tip for the barnes....if you have been shooting anything other than barnes in the rifle....clean it REALLY WELL!!! The barnes are the prima donna of the bullet world....they don't seem to like any fouling other than their own. Thats been my experience anyway! I've had a couple rifles i purchased that initial testing showed 1.5" - 2" groups....gave em a good scrub with wipe out and redid the testing and saw the groups cut in half. Took me a couple rifles to figure it out...so i wanted to test it. I have a .270 that is a solid repeatable 3/4" shooter with the 129 lrx....purposefully shot 20 cup and core bullets, then back to the barnes....groups grew to 1.5"....cleaned the barrel and the groups dropped back to 3/4". Hopefully this will help save you some aggravation!

Good luck!
Chris
 
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