hi, another post from me. i was trying different shooting positions at the range the other day with my remington 700. its an sps in 30-06. i found that id cross my left arm under my right and use that to keep the back of the gun up and stable. i had it tight into my shoulder and i tried right elbow in and out and i was still getting the barrel bouncing all over the place. after each shot it would lift up and land on the right side. didnt seem to matter if i was shooting off the bi pod or from the carpeted blocks of wood. i also used my left hand to try and stabilize the front and hold it down and it was still lifting. i need help with a proper shooting position perhaps or some pointers on the proper way to hold this to keep it stable.
barrel jumping
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i shoot at silverdale in the niagara region. if someone is willing to meet me on a sunday and help me that would be great. any tips they can give me would be very appreciated. im sure its just a matter of adjusting my body positioning, maybe leaning into it a bit more.
The only thing that would make it jump excessively is if you have the butt pad too high up on your shoulder.
thats possible. im hoping my buddy took a picture of me shooting this thing and if he did ill share it to show you my position and to get some input.
i was shooting off the bi pod most of the day, but used the ranges wood blocks on the stock for a few shots.
Actually what's going to make the rifle "jump" is you not being directly behind it.To get yourself into the best position behind the gun so that your body absorbs the recoil in a straight back motion, if you are firing right handed your left leg should be parallel to the barrel.
And deviation of that leg to the left will cause the barrel to jump to the right on firing.When you are doing it right the sights should remain on the target after recoil.Once you get more experience you may even be able to see your own swirl at longer distances.
If your bipod is on concrete it may jump a little more that grass or dirt.I suggest that if you are shooting from a bench get off of it and learn to shoot prone.
And deviation of that leg to the left will cause the barrel to jump to the right on firing.When you are doing it right the sights should remain on the target after recoil.Once you get more experience you may even be able to see your own swirl at longer distances.
If your bipod is on concrete it may jump a little more that grass or dirt.I suggest that if you are shooting from a bench get off of it and learn to shoot prone.
you know what, that is the problem, im sitting angled towards the gun, almost 45 degrees on it, not straight behind it. i think i was trying to find a comfortable position to sit in and still be able to see through the scope. but now that i read what youre saying and thing about how i was sitting thats likely what was happening. thanks alot for the advice
kona, yeah its a big caliber, i got the gun for a good deal with some toys on it otherwise i probably would have considered a smaller round for target shooting. ill get used to it itll just take some time
Contact the ORA at ontariorifleassociation.ca. They run Introductory Days at CFB Borden. I think the cost is about $45 for the day, and you will learn more in that day than you will reading 2 years worth of posts on the internet.
oh man thats cool. i had a buddy mention doing something like this a while back, thanks alot for the link.
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Next time your out, talk to Doug he will give you a hand. I am sure he would not mind at all.
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+1 +1 +1 on @maynard's recommendation to go out to an ORA Intro Day.
A hunting-weight .30-06 is a real handful. No it's not going to hurt you or injure you, but it sure will hop around and be generally quite a shocking experience on every shot you fire. It takes an enormous amount of mental focus and concentration to make each shot a good one.
Wait until you try a 15 pound .308 with a bipod and a rear sandbag. You'll see how much more controllable and comfortable it is to fire 50 very accurate shots in a day's shooting. I won't even being tell you what a joy it is to fire a .223 in a similar configuration (OK I can't help myself - shooting at 600 yards you can watch the "swirl" of your own bullet from when it leaves the muzzle until it goes through the target face)
A hunting-weight .30-06 is a real handful. No it's not going to hurt you or injure you, but it sure will hop around and be generally quite a shocking experience on every shot you fire. It takes an enormous amount of mental focus and concentration to make each shot a good one.
Wait until you try a 15 pound .308 with a bipod and a rear sandbag. You'll see how much more controllable and comfortable it is to fire 50 very accurate shots in a day's shooting. I won't even being tell you what a joy it is to fire a .223 in a similar configuration (OK I can't help myself - shooting at 600 yards you can watch the "swirl" of your own bullet from when it leaves the muzzle until it goes through the target face)
Where would i find this Doug fella next time Im there?
Sounds like i bought too big of a gun. Lol. Im willing to shoot anything and Im always looking out for another rifle
Im gonna start looking for a gun smith see about putting a brake on her hopefully it times down the barrel a little
Sounds like i bought too big of a gun. Lol. Im willing to shoot anything and Im always looking out for another rifle
Im gonna start looking for a gun smith see about putting a brake on her hopefully it times down the barrel a little
two quick points that may help, when i shoot of a bi-pod make sure your not pulling the rifle back, which will cause the bipod to skip on recoil, but rather seat the rifle above the bipod, so you can freely move the rifle back and forth with the bipod in one place. i hope i explained that well, because if your pulling the rifle back it will jump hard off the bipod. another point, is if your shooting of the block make sure the front swivel is free from the block, so when the rifle recoils it slides smooth back without having the swivel hit the block which will cause it to jump also.
well thats my 2 cents.
well thats my 2 cents.
Taking a heavy chunk of lead and copper and taking it from zero to 170,000+ RPM in milliseconds causes a HUGE amount of torque. The lighter the gun, and the narrower the support for the gun, the more it is going to transmit that torque in a very animated way. Add to that the recoil forces pushing the rifle backwards, and you have two very powerful forces acting two entirely different directions.
It's gonna jump, particularly a hunting rifle... that is a light piece of kit.
It is a fact of life.
It's gonna jump, particularly a hunting rifle... that is a light piece of kit.
It is a fact of life.
