Barrel length debate.

How long of barrel do you prefer ?

  • 16.5

    Votes: 12 5.9%
  • 18

    Votes: 16 7.8%
  • 20

    Votes: 37 18.1%
  • 22

    Votes: 67 32.8%
  • 24

    Votes: 43 21.1%
  • 26

    Votes: 29 14.2%

  • Total voters
    204
My favourite rifle is a 22-250 with a 20 inch barrel. I realize I’m probably losing a small amount of velocity with a shorter barrel but it makes the rifle quite a bit easier to handle. It’s the rifle that comes with me most of the time on the farm and being slightly shorter is nice. A 24 inch barrel seems to be somewhat unwieldy when I’m trying to get out of the tractor or truck quick to shoot a coyote or badger. If I’m out calling coyotes, which I rarely do anymore, then length doesn’t seem to matter.
 
A couple posts on here assume that a long barrel means a heavy barrel, this is not necessarily true. The OP asked about barrel length not contour. I have some very light rifles with 24 and 26" barrels, and have done virtually all my mountain hunting with one or another 24" barreled rifle, never been a problem. As far as shooting dogs goes I think one will use whatever appropriate cartridge they own in whatever barrel length it came in.
 
This is silly. Barrel length is a reflection of what the gun is used for. A 3 inch barrel on a 9mm hideout gun is appropriate, as is a 3 foot barrel on a long range target rifle that's chambered for a Cheytac cartridge. Cartridges with massive overbore capacities need long barrels in order to exploit their advantage over standard capacity cartridges. Carbines that are chambered for pistol cartridges, need not be as long as those chambered for the 5.56, if both are to utilize their velocity potential. Some folks prefer the long sighting radius of 36" barrels when pass shooting high flying geese in a field, but handier 26" guns are more appropriate when small game hunting in a woodlot. General purpose big game rifles are commonly encountered with 22" medium weight barrels, but to maintain a slight muzzle heavy balance, a mountain rifle sporting a very light contour barrel, cannot use a reduced length as a weight saving measure, without becoming clubby. The stiffness of the barrel has an effect on accuracy, so in circumstances where maximum velocity is unimportant, short barrels are preferred for their greater stiffness, relative to longer barrels with the same contour. So in answer to the question, I like long barrels, except when I need a short barrel.

I was thinking the same thing. Kinda like asking "Is it farther to China or by boat?" For a coyote calling rifle or a "walking varminter" sure, 22" 223 is great. Would I want that on an rifle used to kick doors? Hell no. Would I want a 14" barrel on a LR rig? Hell no again! For open-country hunting rifles I like longer barrels. But we're not always hunting in open country, are we?

Too many variables.

Lol I never mentioned door kicking, big game rifles or sight radius on shots guns.

I did how ever say we are coyote hunting with common 223, 22-250 or 243 rounds.

I did say 90% of the shots are under 300 yards.

I was in the camp for the shorter barrel (16.5) on a remmy tacical aac-sd in 223.
My friend disagreed.

He prefferd to have more velocity and less drop. I was more on the side of a 16" 223 can drop a yote at 300 just like a long barrel 22-250 and the yote wont know the diffrence...

So not so much of a silly question, just a question of preference... hence the poll. I want to see what everyone prefers...

It seems everyone Likes to be right in the middle!
 
Lol I never mentioned door kicking, big game rifles or sight radius on shots guns.

I did how ever say we are coyote hunting with common 223, 22-250 or 243 rounds.

I did say 90% of the shots are under 300 yards.

I was in the camp for the shorter barrel (16.5) on a remmy tacical aac-sd in 223.
My friend disagreed.

He prefferd to have more velocity and less drop. I was more on the side of a 16" 223 can drop a yote at 300 just like a long barrel 22-250 and the yote wont know the diffrence...

So not so much of a silly question, just a question of preference... hence the poll. I want to see what everyone prefers...

It seems everyone Likes to be right in the middle!
Id opt for the 22250 as well, can still hold on fur a fair ways further out having half the drop as a neutered 223 when that 10% happens. With potentially 700 fps+ more and 75% more energy at 300 yards the yote just might notice the difference, not that it would be around long to argue it effectiveness.
 
Id opt for the 22250 as well, can still hold on fur a fair ways further out having half the drop as a neutered 223 when that 10% happens. With potentially 700 fps+ more and 75% more energy at 300 yards the yote just might notice the difference, not that it would be around long to argue it effectiveness.

Gotta say 6x45(6-223) with 85gr bullets at 2994fps sure does a number on dogs. I’m gonna have to try the 95gr load I’m working on on a dog and see how it performs. They are also flying close to the same speed as the 85
 
The last coyotes I shot are with a 14" barreled 375JDJ with 235gr bullets - 26" barreled 300RUM with 200gr Accubonds @ 3200fps - 18.6" barreled XCR-L in 223.

My go to predator rifles that are setup and ready to go right now are the following.

19" 204 Ruger T/C Contender carbine
21" 223 T/C Contender carbine
22" 223 sst Rem 700 VTR
26" 22-250 older Ruger M77 tang safety
19" 6.8spc T/C Contender carbine
22" 6.8spc Rem 700 LTR in Magpul Hunter stock
24" 25-06 T/C Prohunter
24" 25-06 Rem 700 XCR 11
 
The last coyotes I shot are with a 14" barreled 375JDJ with 235gr bullets - 26" barreled 300RUM with 200gr Accubonds @ 3200fps - 18.6" barreled XCR-L in 223.

My go to predator rifles that are setup and ready to go right now are the following.

19" 204 Ruger T/C Contender carbine
21" 223 T/C Contender carbine
22" 223 sst Rem 700 VTR
26" 22-250 older Ruger M77 tang safety
19" 6.8spc T/C Contender carbine
22" 6.8spc Rem 700 LTR in Magpul Hunter stock
24" 25-06 T/C Prohunter
24" 25-06 Rem 700 XCR 11

Nice!

Although I thought I had sworn of savage rifles... The 10/110 PREDATOR HUNTER MAX 1 has caught my eye.
 
My preference is 26" to 28". With factory firearms there is no choice of barrel length, you have to take what they manufacture. Therefore I have rifles custom made to barrel length of my choice. In Alberta, a fast flat trajectory is an asset, therefore extra velocity from a longer barrel will help the cause. Prairies, mountains, parkland and even the boreal forest offers long shots.
 
Lol I never mentioned door kicking, big game rifles or sight radius on shots guns.

I did how ever say we are coyote hunting with common 223, 22-250 or 243 rounds.

I did say 90% of the shots are under 300 yards.

I was in the camp for the shorter barrel (16.5) on a remmy tacical aac-sd in 223.
My friend disagreed.

He prefferd to have more velocity and less drop. I was more on the side of a 16" 223 can drop a yote at 300 just like a long barrel 22-250 and the yote wont know the diffrence...

So not so much of a silly question, just a question of preference... hence the poll. I want to see what everyone prefers...

It seems everyone Likes to be right in the middle!

Sooooo - you chose a barrel length that is appropriate for the job you intended your rifles to do. Sorta thought that was the point I was making.
 
I'm a carbine guy. 18.5"-20" for me. I don't use magnums and shots are generally less than 100 yards on anything I care to take a poke at. And 99.9% of the time I spend with my guns is walking or driving, not shooting. So I value manuverability and portability over all else. The country I live and hunt in is also quite dense. So longer barrels just don't offer me any extra advantage really.
 
It completely depends on the caliber you're using and the task you're trying to achieve. Shorter barrels can give better accuracy, but -might- result in wasted propellent, making the bullet travel slower.

If you're using the 30-06, you get less accuracy due to the length of the receiver (which makes the barrel appear longer), and the +20% recoil that hits you versus the 308Win cartridge. You get an additional 9% velocity at the muzzle, which basically means nothing until you're looking at shots past 300 yards. Sounds like a good tradeoff, improved ballistics at range and reduced accuracy coupled with more recoil for longer range targets, seems like a winning combo. There's practically no reason not to own a 300win mag if you're already packing a long action rifle, that cartridge is great for long range shooting.

The scout rifle concept is for people who like having a 'one rifle for everything' piece of hardware. They are meant to be short, light, reliable, simple, and fairly accurate. Ruger butchered their attempt at this, but the savage is average. I do think the concept of a 16-20 inch barrel on a 308win is 'perfect' so that's my opinion on this matter.
 
It completely depends on the caliber you're using and the task you're trying to achieve. Shorter barrels can give better accuracy, but -might- result in wasted propellent, making the bullet travel slower.

If you're using the 30-06, you get less accuracy due to the length of the receiver (which makes the barrel appear longer), and the +20% recoil that hits you versus the 308Win cartridge. You get an additional 9% velocity at the muzzle, which basically means nothing until you're looking at shots past 300 yards. Sounds like a good tradeoff, improved ballistics at range and reduced accuracy coupled with more recoil for longer range targets, seems like a winning combo. There's practically no reason not to own a 300win mag if you're already packing a long action rifle, that cartridge is great for long range shooting.

The scout rifle concept is for people who like having a 'one rifle for everything' piece of hardware. They are meant to be short, light, reliable, simple, and fairly accurate. Ruger butchered their attempt at this, but the savage is average. I do think the concept of a 16-20 inch barrel on a 308win is 'perfect' so that's my opinion on this matter.


That would be a tough sell if you're comparing similar quality hunting rifles, with good .308 and .30/06 ammunition . Even in match rifles, when the '06 is fired against a .308, a win for the .308 is not a foregone conclusion, and many records stand with long action rifles chambered in .300 Winchester.

If Ruger had truly butchered their attempt at the RGS, it wouldn't have become the rifle with the best sales. Jeff Cooper didn't build rifles, he promoted a concept, which I happen to agree with, but it was Ruger, not Styer that caught the public's imagination. I wouldn't allow a Savage bolt gun on the property.
 
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