Barrel life question

You vying to be the next Sunray?

Where does a barrel wear the most? Where is the highest velocity and thus the most friction and its related heat?

The answers to these questions are that the barrel wears the most at the throat, where the velocities are the lowest. Thus if your theory was correct, the throat would experience the least wear while the area nearest the crown would experience the most due to being exposed to the highest velocities.

However the throat is exposed to the most burning plasma and thus wears the most while the crown is exposed to the least burning plasma and thus wears the least. Therefore outright velocity is not the issue. It is the amount of powder being forced down the bore that causes the wear.

See, no reason to be pisssy ...... especially when you are wrong. ;)


Its real easy to figure out, and its not from reading posts on the internet. in 40 years of shooting the barrels I've had to change the most are the ones that shoot velocities higher than 3500fps. Speeds at 3000- 3500 fps even less, and rifles like sks and 30-30 that shoot at 2500fps - never, with tens of thousands of rounds through them.

Why does my K98 or Lee Enfeild never burn out? They have a good powder charge. In fact they use a lot more powder than my 22-250, but the 22-250 is a barrel burner? how come?

If people want to talk about compressed air, they should feel free to start another post because its not realistic and has nothing to do with normal wear and tear of traditional rifles and bullets. Whats next? quantum physics and God particles?
 
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Its real easy to figure out, and its not from reading posts on the internet. in 40 years of shooting the barrels I've had to change the most are the ones that shoot velocities higher than 3500fps. Speeds at 3000- 3500 fps even less, and rifles like sks and 30-30 that shoot at 2500fps - never, with tens of thousands of rounds through them.

If people want to talk about compressed air, they should feel free to start another post because its not realistic and has nothing to do with normal wear and tear of traditional rifles and bullets. Whats next? quantum physics and God particles?

fiddler, suputin's compressed air analogy was just there for comparison.
some people don't understand the physics of bullet launching by means of smokeless powder.
Gerard Bull (google him, he used to be Canadian) understood that grainy propellants eroded barrel throats.
 
fiddler, suputin's compressed air analogy was just there for comparison.
some people don't understand the physics of bullet launching by means of smokeless powder.
Gerard Bull (google him, he used to be Canadian) understood that grainy propellants eroded barrel throats.

Exactly.

If velocity is the issue then why do barrels wear at the throat where velocities are lowest instead of at the muzzle where velocities are highest?
 
I read an interesting article that indicated that 2000 rounds was equal to about 6 seconds of bullet in barrel time.
So if you think of it in this term we have a very short time of pristine accuracy in most barrels.
Obviously the barrel will continue to be shootable but may not deliver the accuracy it once was capable of.
 
Maybe the time to reply to questions is when you know the answers. But thanks for trying to help.

Well, my best suggestion if those answers seem wrong to you would be checking out a few books; anything by Litz would get my recommendation. Good luck; always happy to assist developing shooters!
 
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Shoot it until YOU are no longer happy with the groups its printing, then get a new one. Barrels are disposable. Like others have said, 308 will last a looooong time, 243 not so much.
 
I had a 788 Rem in 22-250 years back, it's favourite load was 34 grains of 4064 behind a 50 grain SX. I estimated the velocity somewhere in the 3500-3600 range. When I developed the load the accuracy level was around the half inch mark. After 2700 rounds, groups had grown to 5/8ths of an inch.
 
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