Barrel Rifling

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This POLY idea is very interesting ? Lets see what CGN EXPERTS have to say about it ? :p LOL RJ

A number of advantages are claimed by the supporters of polygonal rifling. These include:
  • Not compromising the barrel's thickness in the area of each groove as with traditional rifling, and also less sensitive to stress concentration-induced barrel failure.
  • Providing a better gas seal around the projectile as polygonal bores tend to have shallower, smoother edges with a slightly smaller bore area, which translates into more efficient seal of the combustion gases trapped behind the bullet,[4] slightly greater (consistency in) muzzle velocities and slightly increased accuracy.[1]
  • Less bullet deformation, resulting in less frictional resistance when the bullet travels through the barrel, which helps to increase muzzle velocity. The lack of sharp surface deformation on the bullet (rifling marks) also reduces drag in flight.
  • Reduced buildup of copper or lead within the barrel, as there are no sharp rifling edges to "shred" into the bullet surface and no pronounced corners that can accumulate foulings difficult to clean, which results in easier maintenance. The reduced fouling also theoretically translates to a simpler "copper equilibrium" profile, which is potentially beneficial to accuracy.
  • Prolonged barrel life, as the thermomechanical stress upon the riflings are spread over a larger area, hence less wear over time.
 
Hey RJ, Ive owned a few different Steyr rifles that had polygonal rifling. Dont know all the ins and outs about rifling but every one of those Steyr rifles were tack drivers. Ive also had great luck with 5R rifled barrels and button rifled as well as single point cut. Never dabled in gain twist but Im sure many types can be very accurate with advantages in each different configuration. Hammer forged has been extremely accurate but also terrible for me. Barrels are like cars,lots of models and different trains of thought and all CAN get you there but some just seem to work on a higher level and more consistently than others. Its attention to details and great raw materials with a staff that cares about the stuff they produce. I have had great barrels from numerous manufacturers and think the smith chambering your barrels is more important than the actual barrel. Just my opinion.
 
Bot in powderburner category but in my target airguns I have several poly barrels/liners.
Some button cut rifling but my favourite is one russian etched poly barrel, this one is so shallow groove almost not visible with my bore scope.
 
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Bot in powderburner category but in my target airguns I have several poly barrels/liners.
Some button cut rifling but my favourite is one russian etched poly barrel, this one is so shallow groove almost not visible with my bore scope.
Nearly a SMOOTH BORE but shoots Accurately ? RJ
 
The German G3 Rifle has a Polygon Barrel as far as I remember, I used one in my short stint in the Army. They where nice to clean as far as I remember and were quite accurate.
A very good friend of mine had a Howa action fitted with a 308 Lothar Walther Polygon Barrel by Roedale, we fitted a Stock for her. This rifle has been shooting really well since good ten years. Mainly used for long range feral goat shooting in Mallorca for the Government. Furthest goat was taken at a tad over 900m. Barrel speed seems to be quite high compared to factory barrels.
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Nothing new with many manfs offering it or did offer it. Obermeyer was likely the first to popularise it with the 5R.

Competed with a Shilen R4G (ratcheted rifling) barrel and it was an amazing shooter. Any better then a top quality Krieger or whatever, no but it sounded good.

Lots of benefits on paper. I never saw anything really special in shooting... and I tried pretty much all options. If it suits your fancy, have at it. From any top quality manf, the barrel creation will matter more then the type of rifling style used.

YMMV

Jerry
 
I had a conversation with John Krieger about the time they started producing 5R barrels. He was a protégé of Boots Obermeyer who was the "father" of modern 5R rifling. Krieger got proper permission and approval to do 5R rifling in Krieger barrels, but they did not do it because it is better - at anything. They did it because it was what customers demanded. They did extensive R&D on 5R vs. 4 and 6 groove rifling, and there was no statistically relevant metric in which the 5R proved to be better. No better precision, no better velocity, no easier cleaning. It made customers happy, so they started offering it.
 
Almost all Euro branded rifles use hammer forged barrels... many US brands don't

Why are there very few odd numbered riflings used in production rifles?

So...

Patato.. Potato

If there was an advantage, it would be common place.

If there was a winning planform, that would be the only planform used in top level shooting in all disciplines.

The real push to figure this out happened when we were in diapers. They didn't find a superior method in rifling profiles or specs

Accuracy today is moving in many other areas.... like scopes that don't rattle around their zero

YMMV

Jerry
 
Ok ! So really no idea WHY ? North American barrel - rifle makers do not rifle there barrels POLYGONAL. 🤷🏼‍♂️

Polygonal rifling is a type of barrel rifling that uses a polygonal (often hexagonal or octagonal) profile instead of the traditional "lands and grooves". It's favored for its potential to reduce friction and gas leaks, leading to higher velocities and potentially longer barrel life. Some claim it also results in greater accuracy.
 
I had a Wes Harris/McMillan polygonal .308 around 1998. It started off as a 1.25" blank that I contoured, NIGHTMARE!!! It shot decent enough, I don't remember much about it, or what happened to it. I think I moved to a 6-284 after that.
 
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