[Barrels] Bull vs stepped, sporter vs x-treme

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I Want to replace a standard factory stainless steel 10/22 barrel for a bull barrel.
Need to be around 12.5" so i got 3 choices from Dlask

DLASK 10/22 .920 .22LR 12.5" Bull Barrel - X-TREME
DLASK 10/22 12.5" STEPPED BARREL - SPORTER
DLASK 10/22 12.5" STEPPED BARREL - X-TREME

which one to buy.. ?

Can someone please explain to me (or link me url) the difference between

1) Bull Barrel vs stepped barrel ?
2) sporter vs extreme ? [also heard about match chamber]

I am also open to other option out there like tacsol, kidd, shilen, GM, but got a headache because of all the choices..
 
Forget the other choices... you can't go wrong with a Dlask barrel. The sporter is a light taper barrel, the X-treme is a heavy barrel... the bull barrel is a normal full contour (.920" for its full length)... the Stepped barrel starts at .920" for 5" and the steps dowm to .850" for the rest of its length. In my opinion; buy the 12.5" Stepped X-treme barrel... all of the bull performance with less weight.

P.S - the Dlask website descriptions are often cut and pasted from another item and are often not accurate... which probably led to your confusion.
 
pretty sure the "Xtreme" and "sporter" your looking into are the chambers....

The sporter chamber will be a little bit "looser" (best word i can find to describe it) this will basically mean the barrel will not be as ammo finicky as far as cycling is concerned.

The Xtreme chamber is basically a "match" chamber and a little "tighter" allowing for better accuracy, but they are also known to be a little more ammo picky as far as cycling is concerned, especially when the chamber starts to get a little dirty.

hope i helped. and again this is my understanding of chamberings.
 
Thank you both for the info.. Much clearer now in my head.

All i have reed was the xtreme chamber will not like cci for whatever reason and that i must be much more anal about cleaning the rifle if i go that route.

The sporter seem less pain but where does it stand between the accurency of an xtreme chamber

stock 10/22 barrel < sporter < xtreme
 
DocBurN said:
Thank you both for the info.. Much clearer now in my head.

All i have reed was the xtreme chamber will not like cci for whatever reason and that i must be much more anal about cleaning the rifle if i go that route.

The sporter seem less pain but where does it stand between the accurency of an xtreme chamber

stock 10/22 barrel < sporter < xtreme
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The tighter chamber only has a problem with CCI Stingers because they are slightly too long. For the other 99% of all rimfire ammo its much better.

-Grant
 
TargetGuy said:
pretty sure the "Xtreme" and "sporter" your looking into are the chambers....

The sporter chamber will be a little bit "looser" (best word i can find to describe it) this will basically mean the barrel will not be as ammo finicky as far as cycling is concerned.

The Xtreme chamber is basically a "match" chamber and a little "tighter" allowing for better accuracy, but they are also known to be a little more ammo picky as far as cycling is concerned, especially when the chamber starts to get a little dirty.

hope i helped. and again this is my understanding of chamberings.
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You were correct... it was news to me that Dlask had named their match chamber the "X-treme." I edited my post so that I don't confuse anyone. :)
 
well... i ordered a few stuff..

1 x DLASK 10/22 12.5" STEPPED BARREL - X-TREME (thank you for the recommendation hoyt)
1 x DAR 22 FLAT TOP RECEIVER
1 x Tac Sol Compensator (i needed something.. either that or a thread protector)

Do you think i made a mistake in ordering this 10/22 Compensator from Brownells if the Dlask barrel is stepped down to .850" diameter for the rest of the barrel up to the muzzle thread... it wont fit flawlessly with the compensator, right ? maybe i should ask Joe to switch to a regular bull or ask brownells to keep their compensator ?
 
Yeah, on the Dlask site,
a thorough explanation of the difference between chambers
is long time overdue.

The X-TREME chamber will accept, cycle and have the best results
with bulk ammo (Winchester and Federal), American Eagle and
most of the target type of ammo (Lapua and Eley mostly).
The best accuracy results were obtained by Lapua ammo,
but you still have to do your little experimenting with different ammo.
As said before in this thread and others, it is (tighter)
and maybe sensitive to dirt deposits.
It will not work with any CCI ammo (Blazer, MiniMag, etc.).
Also, do not waste your time with Remington RF ammo.

The Sporter chamber is larger and
it will shoot all the ammo the X-TREME does, but
it will also shoot CCI ammo, except for Stinger and Velocitor.
The overall accuracy of the Sporter chamber
is nowhere near the X-TREME chamber's accuracy.


So, if you are really interested in accuracy at any price (and effort),
if you clean your gun often and regularly,
if you understand that a good barrel should go coupled with
a good trigger group, a good fit of the rifle in the stock, etc.,
then go with the X-TREME chamber.

If what you want is only a shorter barrel,
if you are lazy in cleaning, if you are not interested in accuracy,
if you shoot whatever ammo you can find,
and only want a gun that you believe it looks cool and
to impress the fat white-trash chicks in your trailer park,
then go with the Sporter.


The comp you ordered from Brownell's is somewhat ok.
Do not worry about not matching
the diameter of the barrel, because it is not that important.
There are only 3 problems with it:
1. It has side holes and it will throw gas
and toxic lead particles in your face.
2. It has no flats for wrench.
3. In the past, every single one I've seen had the thread too short
and it will not screw all the way on barrels with spec threads
(like the barrel you have ordered has).
When you receive it, send it to Dlask and they will lengthen the thread.
 
I fit in the WANT-KICK-ARSES accuracy category so .. X-treme, cleaning, trigger group coming soon..

The look also worth for something... after performance. I saw the levang comp but hell.. its a .22 , not a 50 cal. i read all your lead thread and the gas emitting from a .22 does not worry me one bit.. neither the lead. also.. does sides holes point to the side and does not point in the direction of your face when shooting.. ? still.. its a .22 lead projection is like the .22 recoil. I could die 1 year sooner but i will not shoot a .22 in a yellow meth cooking outfit like Walter White.

also i got all the tools needed to not need a flat wrench to lock it tight.. but the thread lenght i did not anticipated that. I just need to screw something on the dlask barrel thread, and it does not come with a thread protector.. which is 50% the price of a better looking muzzle.

ok, recommand me a nice muzzle that is gonna fit well with the .850 part of a stepped down bull.. i have never seen any so far.. url would be appreciated
 
Hey hoyt, what is your take on lead and muzzle ? Worried ?

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They are indeed hoyt rifles.. I love them but used them here cause of the discution about muzzle with side holes that spit lead in your face. Even tho i really dont want to turn my thread into a lead discution.
 
DocBurN said:
They are indeed hoyt rifles.. I love them but used them here cause of the discution about muzzle with side holes that spit lead in your face. Even tho i really dont want to turn my thread into a lead discution.
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There is a discharge of debris with side vented brakes... generally not an issue for the shooter, but can be an issue for someone "beside" the shooter... as in an open range station next to the shooter's... all the same, if you are shooting in a timed event (bet), you will notice a difference even on a rimfire... primarily rimfire brakes are to protect the crown and to look cool...
 
yesterday i tried to cancel the muzzle like the one on your daughter pink gun from brownells.. no answer yet.. and also tried to switch from stepped to full bull with Dlask for the esthetic only.. that will had some weight to my 10/22 but can't beleave its gonna be that much... the full bull barrel will be ###ier with the same lenght all the way i think.
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i hate to change my mind, those customer are annoying :) like me
but i think it fits my need more that way.

if Dlask make the switch.. what muzzle then ? XB5 or something else ? thread protector even..

Dlask XB5 Flashhider/Muzzle brake
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hoytcanon said:
There is a discharge of debris with side vented brakes... generally not an issue for the shooter, but can be an issue for someone "beside" the shooter... as in an open range station next to the shooter's... all the same, if you are shooting in a timed event (bet), you will notice a difference even on a rimfire... primarily rimfire brakes are to protect the crown and to look cool...
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Maybe I'm just a d*ck but, who cares if its an issue for those beside me. Same answer for "loud" breaks on other rifles. As the shooter I'm not overly concerned if its loud at the business end. Don't stand so close.

TDC
 
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