Barrels registered?

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Interesting question here...I am assuming that if my glock were used in a crime and the bullet were recovered at the scene....I would get a visit from police. Why wouldn't criminals just buy guns, purchase a new barrel and then not worry about the bullet being traced back to them? Unless the new barrel is registered to the gun owner somehow.
 
If you were a suspect they would probably take your gun and shoot it to see if the bullets match the ones from the crime scene. Other than that there is no bullet data base, so far anyway......
 
I would think that if it was getting down to the "nitty gritty" and they were testing ballistics of your firearm... they could also just as easliy "fingerprint" and compare where the Extractor grabs the brass, where the pin hits the primer and the indent left in the primer caused by the gap between the pin and the firing pin channel.

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The barrel is one of the many things that leave a mark on projectile and casing.

I remember reading about the police tracking down the shooter in a very old murder. The gun was found burried and the barrel was rusted but they could still determing that it was the murder gun, by the mark left on the casings when they were chambered.
 
If the police don't have your pistol in their possesion after the crime there's no way that they can trace fired bullets back to it--as mentioned upthread there is no national database that exists. Even if there was, it's not like each pistol has a 100% unique and consistently measurable signature for fired bullets--especially since bullets often are significantly deformed after impact. Fired casings are more reliable, although again there's no way to identify that they came from your pistol specifically--although it would be clear that they came from a Glock.
 
Quote :That's why its so very important to police your brass

wheel guns my friend, enough said
 
dan belisle said:
I have been asked about "other" barrels on some of my switch barrel guns and Contenders by the registrar before. I don't think anyone there now has the knowledge to ask. - dan
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A friend of mines Dan Wesson "pistol pack" had separate registration certs (c.304s) for each barrel.

He was somewhat choked....
 
dan belisle said:
I have been asked about "other" barrels on some of my switch barrel guns and Contenders by the registrar before. I don't think anyone there now has the knowledge to ask. - dan
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Shhhhhh! Contenders are not used in crimes......;)
 
scottshotz said:
Interesting question here...I am assuming that if my glock were used in a crime and the bullet were recovered at the scene....I would get a visit from police. Why wouldn't criminals just buy guns, purchase a new barrel and then not worry about the bullet being traced back to them? Unless the new barrel is registered to the gun owner somehow.
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You watch too much CSI! :p You don't REALLY believe everything you see on that show do you? :eek: CSI is a fun show to watch but you have to take a lot of it with a big grain of salt. Kinda like watching a si-fi movie.

Barrels are designed to be exactly the same for the same gun. While the rifling and other marks might be able to say "match" or "no match" it is not like DNA and will change over time with your gun. The more your gun is fired (especially with jacketed bullets) the more it will change. Sure it still has 3 grooves etc. but not other little imperfections. I've heard this same thing on a radio call in show, "All you have to do is register the barrels and test them." It won't work.

While brass left at the scene might be verifiable as coming from one type of gun it is hardly a "closed case". What if it is reloaded ammo? I've got 45ACP brass that you can't even read the head stamp any more. Still perfectly safe to use but it has lots of dings. Of course you can tell what has been fired in a Glock with the rectangular primer hit but again you need more than that.

And no I am not a lawyer but I play one on TV. ;)


Lee Enfield said:
A friend of mines Dan Wesson "pistol pack" had separate registration certs (c.304s) for each barrel.

He was somewhat choked....
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I believe this was before the CFC software would accept multiple barrels or calibers per gun so they issue for each. Important if it is a "prohib" that has longer barrels too. All they should be doing is registering the shortest though.


Fudd
 
Will I Am said:
I guess if barrels where registered, firing pins would also have to be registered.
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Well now, don't forget the bolt-face impression on the carttridge.
It's like a fingerprint too !
 
I read about an anti in the US that wanted all firearm manufactureres to have to file a fired bullet with a government registry for each gun they made. That way they could find the gun that matched the bullet at the crime scene. DUH I guess he watched too much CSI too.
 
Firing pin extractor, ejector, breech face, and barrel striations themselves are all valid forms of identification when it comes to determining "who shot who". Some forms being better than others. Replacing the parts listed above one can effectively alude the law. Of course buying a new barrel or slide in Canada is a lot more difficult than in the US.

TDC
 
there used to be an hk that case as a boxed set with 4 different calibers( complete top ends ) - 22, 25, 32acp, and 380- along with that , the 1911s and a bunch of others can swap out calibers and barrels like there was no tomorrow- defining the gun that fired it by the barrel alone is a MYTH
 
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