Barrett REC7 vs. H&K MR223

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Sorry if this has already been discussed but nothing turned up on a search.

I am torn between the REC7 and the MR223. Has anyone run a few K rounds through both? I would like to see an objective comparison between the two.

I have a couple H&K handguns and really like the fit, finish and quality and would not hesitate to buy another H&K product. I have also heard nothing but good things about the Barrett so I am a bit torn between the two.
 
Also the number of people that have efficiently run enough ammo to compare the 2 in this country is like winning the lottery..Possibly someone in the US now that they have the MR556
 
There are not too many REC 7 around. Shot the REC 7 PDW version - it was quite a piece.

you can find some pictures in the SHOT 2011 section of the REC 7, I believe.
 
SwL_Wildcat said:
The REC7 is about $2900 and the MR223 is about $4000. There is no real budget I have in mind, I just want it to run with a minimal amount of stoppages.
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If minimum of stoppages is all your want then here's my advice. The rifle is the least likely part to fail in most modern built black guns for all intents and purposes of civilian shooters.

You're far more likely to get a stoppage due to damaged/bad magazines or bad ammunition.
 
Starscream said:
If minimum of stoppages is all your want then here's my advice. The rifle is the least likely part to fail in most modern built black guns for all intents and purposes of civilian shooters.

You're far more likely to get a stoppage due to damaged/bad magazines or bad ammunition.
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If only that were true... I have a CMMG piston upper that has found more ways to stop running than you can shake a stick at. I have had stovepipes, over bolts, fail to pull the casing from the chamber, I have had the brass do a full 180 inside the action AND go over the bolt, double feeds, etc. Not many, if any, of these are magazine related. I have 20+ mags and they all run the same. I have also tried 3 or 4 different brands of ammo with the same results. I have replaced the piston and spring assembly on the rifle, I have replaced the extractor, the ejector and I even swapped out the upper housing to a new RRA housing. I would estimate that I get 3 - 5 stoppages every 100 rounds. I am to the point that I would just like to buy a complete rifle that runs smooth and has no issues. I want to be able to drop it in the mud, get sand or water in it and know it's going to finish the day. I feel the CMMG is just not designed to take this kind of abuse.

I just wanted to compare both rifles in 5.56. I like the 6.8 ballistics but I have not done enough research to make an informed decision. Some of my concerns would be where do I get bulk quantities of ammo? Does the 6.8 ammo fit in the 5.56 mags?
 
You pretty much have answered your own question - CMMG.

Buy a basic LMT or stag DI gun, it will out perform that CMMG any day any time.
 
If the HK is $4000, I wouldn't even bother looking at it. Plenty of AR's around these days for 1/3-1/2 the price it, that have similar if not the same quality and reliability. Unless you really want the lower to say HK on it, I wouldn't even consider it. Unless the thing is made of gold.

I am familiar with the barrett, but don't know of anyone that has any experience with that system. $2900 is a bit more reasonable then $4000 though.

BCM, Noveske, LMT, PWS, LWRC, KAC, etc. all make AR's that are top quality. I would consider any of these before an HK.
 
kthomas said:
If the HK is $4000, I wouldn't even bother looking at it. Plenty of AR's around these days for 1/3-1/2 the price it, that have similar if not the same quality and reliability. Unless you really want the lower to say HK on it, I wouldn't even consider it. Unless the thing is made of gold.

I am familiar with the barrett, but don't know of anyone that has any experience with that system. $2900 is a bit more reasonable then $4000 though.

BCM, Noveske, LMT, PWS, LWRC, KAC, etc. all make AR's that are top quality. I would consider any of these before an HK.
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The HK IAR is a good example how excellent engineering is worth the gold. Despite all the babbling, you can take a look who it is buying HK 416 system if money and politics are not problems.

HK is out to rip off the civies by setting the MSRP at 4000 bucks. They make sure their dealers are making good cash too. They know those rich European gun owners will choke up the dough. If money is not a problem, you know who made the best system.

If money is an issue, for 99% use a high quality AR is more than capable in getting the job done. We are not Special forces direct action doorkickers or IAR gunners. Most of use will never see the advantage of the op system.
 
SwL_Wildcat said:
If only that were true... I have a CMMG piston upper that has found more ways to stop running than you can shake a stick at. I have had stovepipes, over bolts, fail to pull the casing from the chamber, I have had the brass do a full 180 inside the action AND go over the bolt, double feeds, etc. Not many, if any, of these are magazine related. I have 20+ mags and they all run the same. I have also tried 3 or 4 different brands of ammo with the same results. I have replaced the piston and spring assembly on the rifle, I have replaced the extractor, the ejector and I even swapped out the upper housing to a new RRA housing. I would estimate that I get 3 - 5 stoppages every 100 rounds. I am to the point that I would just like to buy a complete rifle that runs smooth and has no issues. I want to be able to drop it in the mud, get sand or water in it and know it's going to finish the day. I feel the CMMG is just not designed to take this kind of abuse.

I just wanted to compare both rifles in 5.56. I like the 6.8 ballistics but I have not done enough research to make an informed decision. Some of my concerns would be where do I get bulk quantities of ammo? Does the 6.8 ammo fit in the 5.56 mags?
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Modern built black guns. Not a hodge podge retrofitted system that has dubious benefits. :p

If you can change the upper receiver then I'd really suggest just switching it back to DI system. Get some breakfree CLP (or your favorite lube of choice) and before a range session squirt some into the BCG. Reapply ever 600 rounds or so. If you're still getting stoppages either you reassembled wrong or the rifle parts are out of specification.
 
SwL_Wildcat said:
If only that were true... I have a CMMG piston upper that has found more ways to stop running than you can shake a stick at. I have had stovepipes, over bolts, fail to pull the casing from the chamber, I have had the brass do a full 180 inside the action AND go over the bolt, double feeds, etc. Not many, if any, of these are magazine related. I have 20+ mags and they all run the same. I have also tried 3 or 4 different brands of ammo with the same results. I have replaced the piston and spring assembly on the rifle, I have replaced the extractor, the ejector and I even swapped out the upper housing to a new RRA housing. I would estimate that I get 3 - 5 stoppages every 100 rounds. I am to the point that I would just like to buy a complete rifle that runs smooth and has no issues. I want to be able to drop it in the mud, get sand or water in it and know it's going to finish the day. I feel the CMMG is just not designed to take this kind of abuse.

I just wanted to compare both rifles in 5.56. I like the 6.8 ballistics but I have not done enough research to make an informed decision. Some of my concerns would be where do I get bulk quantities of ammo? Does the 6.8 ammo fit in the 5.56 mags?
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If you are looking for a tac driver that will not fail then get the MR223, Greentips is selling one, get an enhanced trigger guard and KAC ambi selector switch from OST for her and your good to go. I would run a trijicon Acog of some type with the docter sight on top and call it a day..You will need Emags though for the PMAGS will not fit in the HK magazine housing. Although I have herd the new PMAGS versions have been changed now...rumor can not confirm. Questar and Blaxsun has the EMAGS.

The MR223 is more of a "Battle Carbine" if there was ever a term in the sense it is a little heavier than your average AR but you get some benefits, and really the weight is nothing for the added capability. The rifle is solid and built for durability accuracy and at an extremely high quality level that goes beyond most AR I have seen on the market by a long shot. If you want a gun that does it all and does it at the highest level then look no further...I wouldn't sell mine for anything else.
 
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