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So a good friend of mine is currently doing certain work for a certain country in a certain country that has had lots of history with the British, Russians and most recently the Americans and Canadians. Not being cheeky, I was asked not to mention names. Anyways, he has access to many of the markets around his compound and he sends me pictures of things he finds. Any gems in these pictures and how hard would it be to import antiques that he finds?









 
Flintlock pistol with a twisted wire chain, kind of a bizarre contrast in time. :) Bottom looks like it could be an optical sight from an armoured vehicle. Looks like some kind of fore head protection there.

Grizz
 
The optic is for sure from a russian Armoured vehicle. I have seen similar fold down periscopes for copulas before.
Grizzly Adams said:
Flintlock pistol with a twisted wire chain, kind of a bizarre contrast in time. :) Bottom looks like it could be an optical sight from an armoured vehicle. Looks like some kind of fore head protection there.

Grizz
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Pistols are a bunch of parts guns using bits and pieces from British Issue and East India Co. muskets.
 
tell him to buy modern locks that are cheap there , but considered high security and expensive here. and look for WWII dated optics, sniper scopes and binoculars.
 
Most of the good stuff has already been bought up in the past thirteen and a half years, I'd imagine. Back in '07 I saw a decent Enfield cavalry carbine at the bazaar at Camp Souter in Kabul (might even have been genuine), but by that point the limp-wristed, risk-averse fun police had decided that we couldn't bring shooters back from Afghanistan, not even ones that were legally antiques rather than firearms under Canadian law.

The 1871 dated pistol looks neat and all, but I'd be inclined to think it's a Khyber Pass copy; I wouldn't expect the British army to be issuing muzzle loaders by that point, and I think I see file marks on the brass at the end of the stock.
 
Bacon Sandwich said:
Most of the good stuff has already been bought up in the past thirteen and a half years, I'd imagine. Back in '07 I saw a decent Enfield cavalry carbine at the bazaar at Camp Souter in Kabul (might even have been genuine), but by that point the limp-wristed, risk-averse fun police had decided that we couldn't bring shooters back from Afghanistan, not even ones that were legally antiques rather than firearms under Canadian law.

The 1871 dated pistol looks neat and all, but I'd be inclined to think it's a Khyber Pass copy; I wouldn't expect the British army to be issuing muzzle loaders by that point, and I think I see file marks on the brass at the end of the stock.
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Agreed... The firearms are sold to people passing though the area as wall hangers made up of a mish mash of gun parts from early muskets and rifles. They are unsafe to fire and have no real significant historical value. They do however speak to the ingenuity of the locals. I have brought some home in the past but the regulations has tightened up over the last 30years. Not really worth the time and money to do the paper work now. They are interesting and fun items though!
 
The helmet and pistols were probably made last year in Afghanistan ;) I am dead serious too

I saw tons of that junk overseas in the afghan markets, BUYIER BEWARE! Also be careful and make sure your friend knows the rules and SOPs of shipping war trophies...

One more thing to think of, is the amount of human poo that is in bedded in that wood. Those boys don't use wet naps or purell after they #2
 
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The third and sixth photos show oddball padlocks in the background. Saw those same padlocks when I was there in 08, 09 and 11. In fact, there are one or two on the shelf above my computer.

The Afghans excel at making new things look old, just for the souvenirs market. They were hammering out brand new ###tants and telescopes with 1918 era dates on them. You could have them in shiny brass or aged....same price. They would often misspell some of the makers names like "Stanley".

I did pick up a mkV signalers telescope which was original, but things like that were the exception. I also picked up a fairly historic WW1 military sterling silver statue for a decent price which ended up in a bit of controversy.
 
stencollector said:
The third and sixth photos show oddball padlocks in the background. Saw those same padlocks when I was there in 08, 09 and 11. In fact, there are one or two on the shelf above my computer.

The Afghans excel at making new things look old, just for the souvenirs market. They were hammering out brand new ###tants and telescopes with 1918 era dates on them. You could have them in shiny brass or aged....same price. They would often misspell some of the makers names like "Stanley".

I did pick up a mkV signalers telescope which was original, but things like that were the exception. I also picked up a fairly historic WW1 military sterling silver statue for a decent price which ended up in a bit of controversy.
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I was thinking that about the "Saracen " helmet. That eagle looks like the design came from elsewhere .;)

Grizz
 
they are antique flintlock pistols. there should be no paperwork required to bring them to Canada. correct me if i'm wrong.
Cool stuff!
 
all that stuff has value just depends on how much you can get it for. even if its a repro thing it still is collectable but I wouldnt pay $1000 for a pistol like the thinking its 100% original but if its a good price?? I know a guy who sold all kinds of this stuff I will try and find his web site for you. (his guns were allot worse shape then the ones you are showing though)
 
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