BC Grizzly Hunts over except for the First Nation people!

They’re already fixing this issue in Skeena South...they just announce plans to decimate the moose open season.

Just looked it up....oh boy, a whole 3 day long bull season for a white feller...and my neighbour's just across the road can still shoot a cow anytime of the year.

Gotta love Canada!
 
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There are different ideas about hunting and I wonder how many have the skills to hunt a GB by themselves - without a guide there to make sure that "all is well" during a hunt...??? It goes the same for African hunts. a true hunter has to have the bush skills and experience to hunt; do it safely and for the right reasons. If economics and trophy hunting is removed from the equation then the picture changes too. I hunt for food and I don't go on guided hunting tours. Some guys hunt with spears and I think that's great. It can be seen as a true test of wits and skills and tests the hunter and the hunted. So if someone is inclined to hunt the king of the forest they need to be properly familiar with the land where it lives and know the nature of the animal that is being hunted. Around here there are rattlesnakes and if bitten during a hunt it will not only be a painful event - but it can possibly be fatal event too. A true hunter is an individual who has keen abilities, knows the land and needs plenty of common sense, and the hunter keep's safety in mind at all times. If people are determined to wipe out the GB in BC then rally among yourselves till the goal is achieved. Then, BC will become like many other places that had the GB but they were all decimated to extinction in certain places. Just like the elk and moose that roamed central and southern ontario, and the caribou that once existed in more southerly locations then where they reside now. Find the majority and fill that greedy void and see what comes of emotional desires that are left unchecked...
 
There are different ideas about hunting and I wonder how many have the skills to hunt a GB by themselves - without a guide there to make sure that "all is well" during a hunt...??? It goes the same for African hunts. a true hunter has to have the bush skills and experience to hunt; do it safely and for the right reasons. If economics and trophy hunting is removed from the equation then the picture changes too. I hunt for food and I don't go on guided hunting tours. Some guys hunt with spears and I think that's great. It can be seen as a true test of wits and skills and tests the hunter and the hunted. So if someone is inclined to hunt the king of the forest they need to be properly familiar with the land where it lives and know the nature of the animal that is being hunted. Around here there are rattlesnakes and if bitten during a hunt it will not only be a painful event - but it can possibly be fatal event too. A true hunter is an individual who has keen abilities, knows the land and needs plenty of common sense, and the hunter keep's safety in mind at all times. If people are determined to wipe out the GB in BC then rally among yourselves till the goal is achieved. Then, BC will become like many other places that had the GB but they were all decimated to extinction in certain places. Just like the elk and moose that roamed central and southern ontario, and the caribou that once existed in more southerly locations then where they reside now. Find the majority and fill that greedy void and see what comes of emotional desires that are left unchecked...

Who do you refer to that wants to wipe out grizzlies?
 
There are different ideas about hunting and I wonder how many have the skills to hunt a GB by themselves - without a guide there to make sure that "all is well" during a hunt...??? It goes the same for African hunts. a true hunter has to have the bush skills and experience to hunt; do it safely and for the right reasons. If economics and trophy hunting is removed from the equation then the picture changes too. I hunt for food and I don't go on guided hunting tours. Some guys hunt with spears and I think that's great. It can be seen as a true test of wits and skills and tests the hunter and the hunted. So if someone is inclined to hunt the king of the forest they need to be properly familiar with the land where it lives and know the nature of the animal that is being hunted. Around here there are rattlesnakes and if bitten during a hunt it will not only be a painful event - but it can possibly be fatal event too. A true hunter is an individual who has keen abilities, knows the land and needs plenty of common sense, and the hunter keep's safety in mind at all times. If people are determined to wipe out the GB in BC then rally among yourselves till the goal is achieved. Then, BC will become like many other places that had the GB but they were all decimated to extinction in certain places. Just like the elk and moose that roamed central and southern ontario, and the caribou that once existed in more southerly locations then where they reside now. Find the majority and fill that greedy void and see what comes of emotional desires that are left unchecked...

What the heck are you yammering about???
 
There are different ideas about hunting and I wonder how many have the skills to hunt a GB by themselves - without a guide there to make sure that "all is well" during a hunt...??? It goes the same for African hunts. a true hunter has to have the bush skills and experience to hunt; do it safely and for the right reasons. If economics and trophy hunting is removed from the equation then the picture changes too. I hunt for food and I don't go on guided hunting tours. Some guys hunt with spears and I think that's great. It can be seen as a true test of wits and skills and tests the hunter and the hunted. So if someone is inclined to hunt the king of the forest they need to be properly familiar with the land where it lives and know the nature of the animal that is being hunted. Around here there are rattlesnakes and if bitten during a hunt it will not only be a painful event - but it can possibly be fatal event too. A true hunter is an individual who has keen abilities, knows the land and needs plenty of common sense, and the hunter keep's safety in mind at all times. If people are determined to wipe out the GB in BC then rally among yourselves till the goal is achieved. Then, BC will become like many other places that had the GB but they were all decimated to extinction in certain places. Just like the elk and moose that roamed central and southern ontario, and the caribou that once existed in more southerly locations then where they reside now. Find the majority and fill that greedy void and see what comes of emotional desires that are left unchecked...

You do know that grizzly bears aren't the slightest bit endangered......
 
If the grizzly population is truely endangered,then there should be an across the board ban on hunting grizzlie by anybody for any reason. A grizzly is just as dead if killed for 'cerimonial ' reasons as killed by a trophy hunter
 
all of you need to remember and keep in mind that banning grizzly hunting is the first step ... the greens are against all kind of hunting ... soon it will be black bear and cougar ....
 
The grizzly bear ban is another example of typical NDP arrogance and hypocrisy. People living in Vancouver don't like the idea of a bear hunt, and have passed some kind of social judgement on non native hunters. Mean while we acknowledge how important aboriginal culture is, and try to make amends to our native peoples. Also, we say it is wrong for non natives to do hunt grizz, and pass judgement. However, if natives want to hunt grizzly it's fine? Is it wrong or is it not? Do we respect their traditions, or is this some kind of weird double morality?
 
The BC Auditor General, Carol Bellringer is a smart lady and she essentially says the Grizzly bear trophy hunting ban is bad, politically based policy.

https://www.bcauditor.com/sites/default/files/publications/reports/FINAL_Grizzly_Bear_Management.pdf


The greatest threat to grizzly bears is not hunting, but rather, human
activities that degrade grizzly bear habitat. The ministries have taken
action to reduce some of these impacts, but they have not evaluated
whether their actions are effective. For other risks, government has taken
little action or has been slow to respond. For example, there are 600,000
km of resource roads with on the order of 10,000 km more added each
year. This expansion allows greater human access into wilderness areas,
which results in increased illegal killing of grizzly bears, and greater
human-bear conflicts. Yet, long-promised resource road legislation that
could address this risk is not yet in place.

Grizzly bear populations in some areas of B.C. are now increasing. Our
report shows this is likely happening independently from an adequate
management framework. We have made ten recommendations in this
report to improve government’s management of grizzly bears, including
a recommendation for government to clarify roles and responsibilities
between MoE and MFLNRO. Without such clarity, the improvements
necessary will be difficult to achieve.
 
We all have to get past the FN/non FN thing. We are all in this together. Environmentalists use FN to bolster their cause, they keep getting used because they have such clout.

The Eco-weenies don't want FN to hunt either, but they know this has to be done in increments. Get FN on their side to stop "trophy hunting" is the first step. Next step "well, FN doesn't really need to hunt grizzy either"

We are all in this together, and the sooner we and FN hunters figure this out, the better.
 
We all have to get past the FN/non FN thing. We are all in this together. Environmentalists use FN to bolster their cause, they keep getting used because they have such clout.

The Eco-weenies don't want FN to hunt either, but they know this has to be done in increments. Get FN on their side to stop "trophy hunting" is the first step. Next step "well, FN doesn't really need to hunt grizzy either"

We are all in this together, and the sooner we and FN hunters figure this out, the better.

Who do you think the co-conspirators were in the GBR grizzly hunting ban?
 
We all have to get past the FN/non FN thing. We are all in this together. Environmentalists use FN to bolster their cause, they keep getting used because they have such clout.

The Eco-weenies don't want FN to hunt either, but they know this has to be done in increments. Get FN on their side to stop "trophy hunting" is the first step. Next step "well, FN doesn't really need to hunt grizzy either"

We are all in this together, and the sooner we and FN hunters figure this out, the better.

Yes, the eco weenies are fine with FN hunting because they perceive it as traditional and necessary. And if you think FN are on your side, you have your head up your ass. No offence. :)
 
We all have to get past the FN/non FN thing. We are all in this together. Environmentalists use FN to bolster their cause, they keep getting used because they have such clout.

The Eco-weenies don't want FN to hunt either, but they know this has to be done in increments. Get FN on their side to stop "trophy hunting" is the first step. Next step "well, FN doesn't really need to hunt grizzy either"

We are all in this together, and the sooner we and FN hunters figure this out, the better.


As much as many non-native hunters may have less liberal views on what "equality" is and what the path forward should look like, it's amazing that with such similar values we can't agree on many issues, and that first nations would align themselves with anti-hunters who are lucky to leave the city once a year, or think whistler village is wilderness.
 
I know FN are the topic of this thread, but IMO this Grizzly ban will be looked back on as the first ripple in the pond.

Once a movement like this gets started, the antis & snowflakes feel empowered in their “rights”. The next steps will be for them to argue that they have the right to ban hunting just as much as hunters have the right to hunt.

All it would take is a majority vote, or a continued limp wristed government.

Just my 2c
 
There are different ideas about hunting and I wonder how many have the skills to hunt a GB by themselves - without a guide there to make sure that "all is well" during a hunt...??? It goes the same for African hunts. a true hunter has to have the bush skills and experience to hunt; do it safely and for the right reasons. If economics and trophy hunting is removed from the equation then the picture changes too. I hunt for food and I don't go on guided hunting tours. Some guys hunt with spears and I think that's great. It can be seen as a true test of wits and skills and tests the hunter and the hunted. So if someone is inclined to hunt the king of the forest they need to be properly familiar with the land where it lives and know the nature of the animal that is being hunted. Around here there are rattlesnakes and if bitten during a hunt it will not only be a painful event - but it can possibly be fatal event too. A true hunter is an individual who has keen abilities, knows the land and needs plenty of common sense, and the hunter keep's safety in mind at all times. If people are determined to wipe out the GB in BC then rally among yourselves till the goal is achieved. Then, BC will become like many other places that had the GB but they were all decimated to extinction in certain places. Just like the elk and moose that roamed central and southern ontario, and the caribou that once existed in more southerly locations then where they reside now. Find the majority and fill that greedy void and see what comes of emotional desires that are left unchecked...

This guy knows absolutely nothing about the population dynamics of the grizzly bears of BC. It's just mind boggling how ignorant he is.

In most of the areas of BC outside of human settlements, the bears are thriving. The hunt, as it was set up, had no detrimental effect whatsoever on their populations.
 
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