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I need a BCG???

Criteria I want a F/A BCG of good quality, I'm willing to wait and I know I will have to regardless but what feedback or suggestions you guys have would be great to try.

My runner ups are

LMT Standard FA
LMT Enhanced possibly
BCM

I want something geared to the upper echelons of quality Mil-spec as bare requirement BCG??

All be either putting it in my Noveske or Bushmaster upper I still have...
 
I need a BCG???

Criteria I want a F/A BCG of good quality, I'm willing to wait and I know I will have to regardless but what feedback or suggestions you guys have would be great to try.

My runner ups are

LMT Standard FA
LMT Enhanced possibly
BCM

I want something geared to the upper echelons of quality Mil-spec as bare requirement BCG??

All be either putting it in my Noveske or Bushmaster upper I still have...

At this stage if you need it now and can find one thats on your list.........get that and get it while its in stock. I am waiting on a DD for a mk18 build, it's been four months so far......maybe by fall.
 
BCM are what I use in my builds. Excellent quality. DD and LMT are just as good. Keep in mind, the LMT "enhanced" version, is designed for 14.5" or longer barrels. They may cause reliability issues in shorter guns. I would avoid any and all Canadian made BCGs. Every company producing them seems to have issues spring up. Not worth the time.
 
BCM are what I use in my builds. Excellent quality. DD and LMT are just as good. Keep in mind, the LMT "enhanced" version, is designed for 14.5" or longer barrels. They may cause reliability issues in shorter guns. I would avoid any and all Canadian made BCGs. Every company producing them seems to have issues spring up. Not worth the time.

Yes this for sure, I totally am not convinced on CF BCG yet, they seem to be a long ways away and to put in my upgraded bushy I still want something from BCM or DD, I wish stuff would just go back to normal..

I don't think OST ever did get any BCM BCG in which I waited for ever for, I should of kept all my spikes BCG I sold, only have one left and I will keep that.
 
Continental Machine Tool bolts have been used in DOD guns for 40 years this year.

I noticed that when CMT first started engraving CM on them, suddenly BCM bolts had CM engraved on them.

Stag Arms = CMT.

Edit to add, Noveske bolts, also CMT.
 
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I think LMT would be my "go to" if I had a choice.

Be weary of LMT enhanced, they use non standard extractors, so if you have any issues with the extractor, you are SOL. However, I've had little to no issues with my enchanced bolt in well timed builds.
 
ok, sorry if this is slightly off topic, but its been bugging me for a while.

Why do some people want F/A bolt carrier groups for their semi auto rifle? And its for a rifle that can never be made F/A and used legally in this matter.
 
ok, sorry if this is slightly off topic, but its been bugging me for a while.

Why do some people want F/A bolt carrier groups for their semi auto rifle? And its for a rifle that can never be made F/A and used legally in this matter.

2 reasons. It's the cool factor for some, to have an F/A component. For second, it's a quick way to add more weight to your systems.
Some will argue, but AR tend to work better with a heavier action, that's why they make H1 and H2 buffers and what not.
It's a quick way for people to add weight who don't know to beef up their buffer, and for those of us who do, it's like having a buffer . . . that goes to 11.

And yes, an F/A BCG is legal. As the lower is legally considered the firearm, the prohibition is on F/A lower components, but there are no prohibitions on F/A upper components that I'm aware of.
 
Can't go wrong with LMT or CMT/STAG. Running FA BCG from each in a couple of my shorty builds. Zero issues and excellent fit and finish. Honestly, my only complaint about STAG is that I hate their website. :)
 
CMT
aka STAG
aka NOVESKE
And others protected by non-disclosure agreements.......

Call Walt and get one of the best.
The nicest BGC I had was one from Arms East.
DD was a close second.

CMT doesn't have all that fancy branding and high paid promo.

They dont need it
 
Bolt carriers are pretty much the same across the board for most of the big brands.

however, pay attention to the inside surfaces where the bolt fits in and the gas key. They are supposed to be chromelined. I have run across some brandnames, that I suspect, did not chromeline those surfaces.
 
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2 reasons. It's the cool factor for some, to have an F/A component. For second, it's a quick way to add more weight to your systems.
Some will argue, but AR tend to work better with a heavier action, that's why they make H1 and H2 buffers and what not.
It's a quick way for people to add weight who don't know to beef up their buffer, and for those of us who do, it's like having a buffer . . . that goes to 11.

And yes, an F/A BCG is legal. As the lower is legally considered the firearm, the prohibition is on F/A lower components, but there are no prohibitions on F/A upper components that I'm aware of.

Not entirely true. It is not illegal to use F/A lower components in a semi lower. Plenty of people running F/A hammers for example, because they think the extra mass increases reliability. Perfectly legal. As for the adding of weight to the system, you must remember, that the system was originally designed with the heavier F/A carrier. So based purely on that fact, I'd argue that everyone should be using one.

The other main benefits to using a F/A carrier:

1) Shrouded Firing Pin. Some semi-auto carriers still have the lower portion of material below the collar of the firing pin removed. This is a throw back from the 70's when Colt altered some of their parts (hammer, firing pin and carrier) to induce a malfunction if the disconnector was removed. The presence of the shroud also takes the stress off of the firing pin during cocking.

2) Dwell Time. This concept goes hand in hand with increasing buffer weight and really only becomes a factor in shorter carbines. Dwell time is the amount of time the system maintains pressure while the bullet is PAST the gas port but still in the barrel. The dwell is longer on a 20" or 16" than a 10.5" barrel. By adding mass to the carrier (and buffer), the system is slowed, increasing the amount of time the bolt stays locked. What this can translate into, is greater reliability with weaker or worn extractors/springs, among other things.

3) Bolt Bounce. This is another interesting concept that also pertains to buffer weight and carrier mass. With lighter components, during chambering, the bolt carrier will actually bounce back when it makes contact with the barrel extension. This is generally not a great cause for concern in semi-auto systems but in an automatic firearm, can result in misfires and light primer strikes.

Lastly, I should clarify that simply adding weight to your rifle is not the solution for every length and gas system. In some cases, too heavy a buffer for example, will cause last round hold open issues.
 
Some great point by angryebrows and Greentips and others....

Greentips if you would please mentions some of them you suspect that would be awesome, even though it would be mostly speculation, if not I understand...
 
Ordered a DD BCG, had an interesting offer but for the price of DD BCG I figured that will do me fine, now a 3 to 4 month wait...
 
Not entirely true. It is not illegal to use F/A lower components in a semi lower. Plenty of people running F/A hammers for example, because they think the extra mass increases reliability. Perfectly legal. As for the adding of weight to the system, you must remember, that the system was originally designed with the heavier F/A carrier. So based purely on that fact, I'd argue that everyone should be using one.

The other main benefits to using a F/A carrier:

1) Shrouded Firing Pin. Some semi-auto carriers still have the lower portion of material below the collar of the firing pin removed. This is a throw back from the 70's when Colt altered some of their parts (hammer, firing pin and carrier) to induce a malfunction if the disconnector was removed. The presence of the shroud also takes the stress off of the firing pin during cocking.

2) Dwell Time. This concept goes hand in hand with increasing buffer weight and really only becomes a factor in shorter carbines. Dwell time is the amount of time the system maintains pressure while the bullet is PAST the gas port but still in the barrel. The dwell is longer on a 20" or 16" than a 10.5" barrel. By adding mass to the carrier (and buffer), the system is slowed, increasing the amount of time the bolt stays locked. What this can translate into, is greater reliability with weaker or worn extractors/springs, among other things.

3) Bolt Bounce. This is another interesting concept that also pertains to buffer weight and carrier mass. With lighter components, during chambering, the bolt carrier will actually bounce back when it makes contact with the barrel extension. This is generally not a great cause for concern in semi-auto systems but in an automatic firearm, can result in misfires and light primer strikes.

Lastly, I should clarify that simply adding weight to your rifle is not the solution for every length and gas system. In some cases, too heavy a buffer for example, will cause last round hold open issues.

Yeah, I wasn't sure about F/A parts in the lower, the rest it pretty much detailed explanation of my point regarding weight, except for the firing pin shroud. I haven't heard of the shroud being much a problem in modern semi carriers. When I compare any of mine, they are pretty much identical in that area, both Semi and F/A, with the only difference being the cut near the back, there are a few oddballs out there tho'.
 
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