BCL Px19 foxbat did anyone who ordered got it?
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brownbear53
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- Location
- Vancouver, BC
I have a tracking number and an estimated delivery date so we will see if Canada Post comes through. I just want my gun I don’t care about the time of year. Fingers crossed that everything goes well with shipping. What else can you say?
- Location
- East Kootneys
Took it to the range yesterday - it won't feed any type of ammo, I tried 3 types with different shapes of bullets. Feed angle into the chamber is way too steep, cartridges get jammed against the upper wall of the chamber. Range day was almost ruined, good thing I took other guns with me - they ran perfect on the same ammo. And I am used to the terrible QC from BCL, so no surprise here. Should be including a free rotary tool with every gun purchase. BCL would make a good gun company if only it was bought by Palmetto State, I have to admit I still like the designs of BCL's guns.
Possible solution - either ream out the ramp opening, making it an "unsupported chamber", or to get a different make barrel. Also the chamber is extremely tight - understandably is a Shadow System barrel.
Possible solution - either ream out the ramp opening, making it an "unsupported chamber", or to get a different make barrel. Also the chamber is extremely tight - understandably is a Shadow System barrel.
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True, but already having a normal glock, I thought that getting a full-metal glock without an ugly pig nose would be an improvement, haha. Still determined to make it work, as machining and finish are quite decent on the Foxbat. I will start with reaming the chamber using the standard 9mm reamer. Currently, the rounds that are rattling inside the G5 barrel, don't even fit fully into the Shadow Systems chamber - looks like SS also has QC issues.
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- Location
- East Kootneys
Man what a crying shame!.....
So sorry to hear about your issues.
I had similar results with a BCL Siberian in FDE brown color. I sold it at a loss of $350.00-$400.00. I did not want to deal with the warranty end of it. It turned me off the AR180 style platforms.
Have you contacted BCL in regards to possible warranty repair of your Foxbat?
It's funny, the BCL products sure look good but a lot of them do not seem to run worth a crap.......
Please keep us in the loop on how you make out. I hope other Foxbat owners are not experiencing the same issues.
I own a BCL Bison that I want to say is second generation .223. I know there is only one generation of the gun but mine has the new firing pin, dual ejectors and new firing pin spring for hard primers. I have never had a jam with that firearm using the proprietary magazines and the ejection is fantastic. It’s around 3” at 100 meters which is fine for a ranch rifle. Definitely not a piece of #### firearm. If I did have an issue BCL would definitely fix it as I have met them in person because i literally did a college project with their company and have seen the customer service. All this is to say that BCL sometimes can make a decent firearm. However I do agree that the Siberian is terrible like most Canadian AR-180s. If you want to truly have fantastic firearms stick to the Norinco Type 81, Type 97, X95 and CZ Bren. Anything else and you are taking a gamble regardless of who the manufacturer is if it is Canadian made.Man what a crying shame!.....
So sorry to hear about your issues.
I had similar results with a BCL Siberian in FDE brown color. I sold it at a loss of $350.00-$400.00. I did not want to deal with the warranty end of it. It turned me off the AR180 style platforms.
Have you contacted BCL in regards to possible warranty repair of your Foxbat?
It's funny, the BCL products sure look good but a lot of them do not seem to run worth a crap.......
Please keep us in the loop on how you make out. I hope other Foxbat owners are not experiencing the same issues.
- Location
- East Kootneys
Thanks for the report, It's odd because Rob from BCL truly seems like an awesome fellow. Unfortunately a lot of their firearms are absolute garbage.
I do not understand why they cannot build a decent, reliable and accurate firearm, My Siberian was $1800.00 before taxes, what a complete waste of money. Very disappointing indeed!.......
It's unfortunate that Rob from BCL could not chime in to explain why they build an $1800.00 piece of sh1t semi-auto AR180 type rifle. For $1800.00 it should run like a Singer Sewing Machine........
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Thank you all for contributing to a discussion!
I am not going to bother ever again with BCL warranty, will try to fix it myself. Will post the fixing process here soon.
I used to have a Bison, it was blowing the cases no matter what ammo you feed to it. It was shipped for the warranty repair and back, claiminfg it was fixed. The problem still persisted. Sluggung the barrel showed it was a couple of thouthands out of spec, too tight between the grooves. Bullets apparently were jammed through the barrel, causing pressure spike. Only after the second return they finally replaced it.
Speaking about platforms - there is reason why world's best machine guns use two or three lug design, not seven. I would never bet my life on anything AR-based, in general - it has to do with the inherent feed ramp angle, prone to jams and double feeds. My ownership experience with Armalite AR180B and Robinson M96 showed that even those were not nearly as reliable as the run off the mill Chinese guns. BCL should consider the 5.56 T81 clone and do their design magic. I still do sympathize with Rob and feel sorry that lack of funding did not let BCL deliver in full. I blame liberals and their gun laws for killing development opportunity for Canadian makers.
I am not going to bother ever again with BCL warranty, will try to fix it myself. Will post the fixing process here soon.
I used to have a Bison, it was blowing the cases no matter what ammo you feed to it. It was shipped for the warranty repair and back, claiminfg it was fixed. The problem still persisted. Sluggung the barrel showed it was a couple of thouthands out of spec, too tight between the grooves. Bullets apparently were jammed through the barrel, causing pressure spike. Only after the second return they finally replaced it.
Speaking about platforms - there is reason why world's best machine guns use two or three lug design, not seven. I would never bet my life on anything AR-based, in general - it has to do with the inherent feed ramp angle, prone to jams and double feeds. My ownership experience with Armalite AR180B and Robinson M96 showed that even those were not nearly as reliable as the run off the mill Chinese guns. BCL should consider the 5.56 T81 clone and do their design magic. I still do sympathize with Rob and feel sorry that lack of funding did not let BCL deliver in full. I blame liberals and their gun laws for killing development opportunity for Canadian makers.
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Why would it be the fault of the barrel? Did BCL buy blanks and finish machine and ream them?
I have a Shadow Systems MR918 that hasn't had a malfunction that I remember in thousands of rounds, and their reputation is as far as I'm aware, stellar.
Glock Gen5 "Marksman" barrel (left) vs Shadow Systems barrel (right). Make what you want of it. Other makes' barrels also work well. Chamber on this specimen is obviously out of spec - casing jams before entering all the way in, preventing the breech from closing.
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I just checked my MR918 barrel against 3 oem Glock 9mm barrels with a dimensionally accurate 9mm drill round and they all appear to headspace and chamber correctly, so I'd say your barrel chamber isn't correct based on that video.
I'm curious though - was that a blank supplied to BCL and they completed the chambering or did they just go out and buy a bunch of finished replacement barrels?
If the later, if BCL doesn't fix it, I'd wager Shadow Systems would.
I'm curious though - was that a blank supplied to BCL and they completed the chambering or did they just go out and buy a bunch of finished replacement barrels?
If the later, if BCL doesn't fix it, I'd wager Shadow Systems would.
I would say that BCL has no choice but to fix it. That is completely unacceptable. Which is fine if the manufacturer will actually take care of the customer and fix the firearm. That should theoretically be the benefit of buying a Canadian made firearm.
