BCL102 dust cover issue
- Thread starter Danimal85
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I just want to make sure I have this correct. You two think that having to call up BCL to have them send me out a new dust cover to replace the one that is too small which comes as a "feature" that is complete BS to anyone who actually has any training on an AR.. is somehow reasonable? Now let's add that said rifle will be delivered likely by end of February at the earliest. So it hasn't even been made yet. Never mind the fun prospect of dissembling the BCL 102 to change out that dust cover as an after thought later on. Hmmm wouldn't getting this done during assembly be a lot easier? Oh wait, he provided the answer on this page. Here's a tip, the answer wasn't particularly practical and there should be a better answer/solution.
It isn't ideal, BCL seems to have rushed it's "gen 2" gun to market to meet the very high demand. I ordered mine in August because I missed the first presale that sold out in the time it took me to make a 2.5 hr drive. To be honest I'd have preferred to receive the rifle I thought I bought (the gen 1 with no ambi anything and no big lug behind the handguard) but I've got a gen 2, and minor dust cover issue aside, it's a great gun. I could have lived with shoving a spacer on the dust cover hinge pin, but BCL has apparently agreed to make some covers that will fit with no play for those of us who want them. Maybe they will even stop using the sloppy covers since lots of people seem to dislike them, and you could get a gun with a snug fitting cover. But to expect them to specially make you one is unrealistic. Doing it during assembly would certainly be easier for you, but do you really think they have guns selected for customers as they're building them? oh, heres rifle number BCL102000265 for Expoxy7, make sure you get that good dust cover on it..... no. They're going to build them with the parts they have and if you choose to change the one you receive, they'll give you a new cover. I think that's fair enough. Personally, I think they should etch DANIMAL on all the snug fitting covers since I brought this issue to light, but they're not gonna do that either lol
As far as your complaint of disassembling the rifle to change out the dust cover, its a few screws to take off the handguard and a circlip to pull the hinge pin out. swapping the cover should take no more than 15 mins. I spent more time than that taking it apart and checking it out when I got it home.
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All the arguments and counter arguments in this thread are really confusing.
It is by design a value add feature? But also considered an issue that they will rectify if complained?
There are no QC issues because it’s design intent? Or there are QC issues but only because this company hasn’t been making guns for decades?
It is by design a value add feature? But also considered an issue that they will rectify if complained?
There are no QC issues because it’s design intent? Or there are QC issues but only because this company hasn’t been making guns for decades?
I'm not sure I really buy the line about it being intentional, but maybe... I suppose someone could have thought it was a good idea so you can check the position of your bolt since you can't do a press check without a forward assist... but i find it a bit too loose and it tends to flop open when I try to close it.
Was with you until your post got stupid. Well, that and the "lol" 16 year old girl texting stuff you keep adding. They should be changing it for all the new rifles. Offer the larger dust cover for the previous already out the door versions if the current owners want it. I'm betting if we took a poll right now the vast majority would want the dust cover that actually fits properly vs the "feature" version. Just call it a hunch.
Of course I was hoping Ryan and or BCL would come up with this solution. Hence the reason for the earlier post that seemed to go over some people's heads.
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Oh is that where my post got stupid? At least I made it farther than your post did. Sorry you got called out for not reading the posts in the forum. If you had read more, you'd see I started this thread. if I'm such a fanboy as you called me before you edited your post, why'd I bring up the issue in the first place?
Obviously I think they should put a proper dust cover on it but they're not going to do it just for you, regardless of what a special snowflake you are. Get over yourself and get off my thread.
Obviously I think they should put a proper dust cover on it but they're not going to do it just for you, regardless of what a special snowflake you are. Get over yourself and get off my thread.
I read the post. The original response wasn't acceptable. Especially for firearms that are two months away at a minimum and not even made yet.
If I edited it out, then clearly I re evaluated my stance on that. It became clear you weren't a fanboy. Instead it was more of a you have the issue and don't have as much interest as I would with making sure the future versions IE the ones I bought don't have the same issue.
There we go. Just end your sentence there and you have it right. End of story.
Well, when you ask so nicely... No.
I hope they don't lock it. I'd like to hear Ryan's views on it and if BCL is willing to change it. Let's be honest, that's really who everyone reading this thread wants to hear from. Not you, not me. You might have started the thread, but it's not really yours. Welcome to a forum!!
Well Ryan doesn’t appear to want to give out any info. He’s very much like a politician. Giving one answer that ignores the main question but gives you some info that you want to hear.
I’m interested to see the solution because once again, I find it unlikely that they’ll be making a new die for larger ejection port covers for a few people. I doubt they make them in house but you never know. They should definitely correct this “feature” on future versions but we’ll likely have to wait for them to ship to find out.
I’m interested to see the solution because once again, I find it unlikely that they’ll be making a new die for larger ejection port covers for a few people. I doubt they make them in house but you never know. They should definitely correct this “feature” on future versions but we’ll likely have to wait for them to ship to find out.
I posted on 8/26/17:
Having almost exclusively failure to eject cleanly. Have tried atleast five different loads and two different mags.
Bolt holds back 100% on a single round. Rounds are either stovepiping or some entirely facing backwards and trying to feed in fresh with old still sitting there.
Have disassembled, cleaned and lubed the bolt, extractor, ejector, cam pin, firing pin, gas block etc.
Approx 50+ rounds through it thus far with only maybe half a dozen cycling correctly and picking up/loading next round.
Dust port cover does not latch and stay closed.
Gun shows promise of accuracy but have only been offhand shooting at 40yds thus far.
Am I the only one with a Friday afternoon build? Just my luck.
All you guys lamenting about how your "Gen 2 or Gen 3" will have the bugs all worked out have had me chuckling for months. You got aesthetics and free microwaves with your gen 2 purchase (ambi).
I've lost a lot of respect for CGN and many of its dominant users as I've sifted through posts of their complaints, issues with match chambers, surface finishes on aesthetic spots inside bcg or external barrel etc on what our market considers a "bargain rifle". Only to later read "haven't shot it yet" or find they don't even possess one.
The interwebz is full of clucking chickens.
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Has anyone looked if it's the port door to see if it is that parts out of spec not the machining
For us who have bought one but haven't received it yet, we are trying to minimize all the risks you mentioned above before going to shoot it, we don't like wasting our time with statistically high defective products. We are just standing on the shoulders of others who have had issues and we are trying to prevent them from happening to us.
I understand you are frustrated, but why are you frustrated and angry at your fellow shooters? You should return your rifle to BCL since it is defective, list all your problems, have them fix it, that is it.
no such spec for ar10
"Dust cover does not latch and stay closed" is pretty vague. Could be as simple as a weak detent spring. Before this I had not seen anything about the dust covers being too small and requiring precise positioning to latch.
Did you ever sort out your ejection problem? Sounds like it could have been a bad extractor.
Did you ever sort out your ejection problem? Sounds like it could have been a bad extractor.
