BCL102 Range Review, SECOND RANGE TRIP POST 123!!!

OldRussian said:
The two stage trigger tech drop in trigger would work well in this. I would stick to a drop in trigger package since they are machined to known tolerances. I am 99% sure you won't need to complement the Trigger Tech with anti roll out pins. They sell for 300 from multiple site sponsors.
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Bombsquad68 said:
I would go 2 stage for a long range gun personally, it's nice to lean into the trigger a bit before you commit to pulling as you hover over your target. I've used Giessele's in the past but I got a CMC for this one, a 2 stage 4 lb pull, 1 lb in the first stage and 3 lb on the second. I think Trigger Tech, Timney, Elftmann and many others make awesome triggers, that's the nice thing about the AR platform is that there are a ton of great ones. You pay a bit more for the drop-in style but they are an easier install.
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Thanks guys. I definitely want a two stage as that's what I'm used to. I think I'm between the CMC and Trigger Tech, my 102 is from the second batch so I have some time to research and decide. :)
 
Considering the allure of the NEA 102 to me is a NR semi auto cool hunting rifle, and not a precision bolt action rifle, the groups I see are very satisfying. Great accuracy for a $1700 rifle of this type.

handloads will only make it better.
 
wicked_police said:
Guys paid 2 and 3 times more for modern shotguns that they wouldn't post groups of because the guns weren't accurate.

And here, we have a hundred or so rounds out of a new gun with a mil-spec trigger (not a 'proprietary' trigger) that seems wasn't even really tried for accuracy, only compatibility with ammo, and there's questions and complaints...

This site is nothing if not consistent.
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HA! I *WISH* your assessment of CGN wasn't so accurate...but it is, of course...Perfectly accurate. :)
 
HirvGotti said:
Roger that, now what kind of trigger should I be looking for? I've never dealt with any AR style triggers.
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before jumping on the band wagon and installing a drop in "ar15" trigger..... remember, these are 308's and many manufacturers make specific triggers for the ar10 style rifles, i have had great luck with geissele s3g with extra power wolff hammer spring (trigger pull weight was not changed, even the geissele tech said it was fine) the other thing timney and elftman do is a heavier hammer, more mass = more bang.

some ar15 triggers are fine in ar10 style rifles.... others with skeleton hammers and super light weight hammers may not be, ESPECIALLY with mil-surp and norinco...... so before buying make sure it is appropriate.

to my knowledge the only good to go trigger is the kac 2 stage 4.5# match trigger...... i emailed several manufacturers and only geissele gave me a 100% solution, just an fyi on geissele is they use factory weight hammer springs in all their triggers.
 
driller212 said:
Milspec but not an AR-15 tube, it is an AR-10 tube, so it is longer. Read up at the link below!

https://forum.308ar.com/topic/10133-buffers-receiver-extensions-stocks-and-springs/
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Hi again Driller,

I understand the difference in buffer tube length. How does that impact butt stock choice? Can we install any mil-spec butt stocks (that fit AR-15s), or are there different butt stocks for AR-10s?

Sorry for the questions, but I am relatively new to ARs, and am becoming more confused by all the discussions, not less.

Thanks.
 
Pax+Caritas said:
Hi again Driller,

I understand the difference in buffer tube length. How does that impact button stock choice? Can we install any mil-spec button stocks (that fit AR-15s), or are there different button stocks for AR-10s?

Sorry for the questions, but I am relatively new to ARs, and am becoming more confused by all the discussions, not less.

Thanks.
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I am relatively new as well.

Any mil-spec (or commercial for that matter) 6 position stock will fit the tube. Since the tube is longer, it only affects length of pull. A commercial stock will likely be a little bit of a looser fit than a mil-spec if I remember correctly, but either should work.
 
driller212 said:
I am relatively new as well.

Any mil-spec (or commercial for that matter) 6 position stock will fit the tube. Since the tube is longer, it only affects length of pull. A commercial stock will likely be a little bit of a looser fit than a mil-spec if I remember correctly, but either should work.
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Got it, thanks. The one thing that does seem clear to me though, is that it would not be a good idea to mis-match mil-spec and commercial.

Take care.
 
Curtis264 said:
Timney makes a specific trigger for the AR-10 (670s is the model number), I have 4 of these triggers in all my AR-10, they are a beautiful trigger and they install easily
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I'm waiting to hear from folks which triggers fit. AR10? AR15?

I was under the impression the BCL102 had an AR15 trigger in it? Sure looks AR15 to me...

Cheers
Jay
 
Gatehouse said:
Considering the allure of the NEA 102 to me is a NR semi auto cool hunting rifle, and not a precision bolt action rifle, the groups I see are very satisfying. Great accuracy for a $1700 rifle of this type.

handloads will only make it better.
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This thing does not have a hunting weight barrel on it. It's an HBAR that weighs almost 9lbs. Throw a scope on it and you'll be close to 11lbs unloaded.

I remember tiriaq doing a test with one of their AR15 barrels using quality ammo and the results were incredibly mediocre. He deleted the thread after NEA decided to chime in with their usual helpful remarks.

For me to consider it for hunting, which is where I believe it would also excel, I'd like to see it drop a couple of pounds. I'm sure that it's doable but the costs don't make it currently worthwhile to me. Hopefully other profiles will be available in the future but NEA does seem to prefer heavier profiles for some reason.
 
Leg said:
This thing does not have a hunting weight barrel on it. It's an HBAR that weighs almost 9lbs. Throw a scope on it and you'll be close to 11lbs unloaded.

I remember tiriaq doing a test with one of their AR15 barrels using quality ammo and the results were incredibly mediocre. He deleted the thread after NEA decided to chime in with their usual helpful remarks.

For me to consider it for hunting, which is where I believe it would also excel, I'd like to see it drop a couple of pounds. I'm sure that it's doable but the costs don't make it currently worthwhile to me. Hopefully other profiles will be available in the future but NEA does seem to prefer heavier profiles for some reason.
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It would be nice if they came out with a light weight version with clamshell handguards and a light profile barrel. I would buy it all over again if they did that.
 
Jay said:
I'm waiting to hear from folks which triggers fit. AR10? AR15?

I was under the impression the BCL102 had an AR15 trigger in it? Sure looks AR15 to me...

Cheers
Jay
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A lot of "AR10" triggers use heavier springs and hammers with more mass. They use the same pins and spacing as any standard AR15 so an AR15 trigger may work.
 
driller212 said:
It would be nice if they came out with a light weight version with clamshell handguards and a light profile barrel. I would buy it all over again if they did that.
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I'd buy one on the spot if they offered something like that.

Only thing stopping me from buying one at the moment is the weight. Great for a bench gun but that's not what I'm looking for.
 
DVX said:
What's the biggest difference between the NEA102 and Alberta Tactical Rifle?
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They are completely different firearms that share the same basic operating system (direct impingement). Besides that they are so different it would take too much effort to explain the difference to you IMO.

Both fit the semi auto NR role for a DI gun. DI guns are notorious for being more accurate (most of the time) than their piston driven counterparts. ATRS is more of a custom rifle that you feed high quality ammo to, and this is more of a plinker/tacticool rifle not designed specifically for precision, even though it may well fit that role.
 
Leg said:
I'd buy one on the spot if they offered something like that.

Only thing stopping me from buying one at the moment is the weight. Great for a bench gun but that's not what I'm looking for.
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I like the excercise :p

But also it is nice that it fits dual roles with the med profile barrel, ie hunting/target/tacticool. It can definitely get annoying when you are shooting at the range and the barrel heats up and you have to wait 5 to 10 minutes for it to cool after shooting 20 rounds or so.

That being said, I would still prefer the lighter barrel profile.
 
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