BCRA Service Rifle Clinic/Coaching

Currently we can't even manage to fill either the service rifle or tac rifle to capacity and that is sad when you look at some of the gear that is in this corner of the province.

If people wanted the BCRA to focus more on the areas of Service rifle and Tactical(Sniper) rifle it is acually very easy to change:

1: Buy a membership, BCRA has been around as long as Canada has been a country. There is no better tool to get where we need to go.
2: Religiously attend the shoots you are interested in and push for more of them
3: Attended the AGM's in large numbers and speak your mind, get it out there.
4: Put pressure and influence where it is required by actually volunteering for some of these positions to get the jobs done.

By doing these things you will essentially hijack the organization for it's own good by getting started on the changes that are inevitable in modern shooting sports in Canada.

Or we could just sit around and #####.:slap:
 
I have found that many Provincal Rifle Assocations TR shooters have lost sight of there roots and it was Service Rifle that was the Shooting Discipline that began the DCRS and the PRA's
 
Mike I know where your coming from but it ain't gonna happen.Tactical shooters are generally younger and not retired.We work crazy hours.We have kids and other priorities.I can barely scrape together enough time to shoot 3-4 matches a year let alone try to get to one AGM and try to round up all the other tac shooters at the same time.We just don't have the time or bodies to influence by vote.It seems that the PRA's are the same across the country.I've talked to guys back east,Ontario and Alberta and each one of them have had,or is having the same dificulties.If it were as easy as you think it would be done already.
 
I never said it was going to be easy....It's a matter of what is important to the individual shooter. The old dudes that shoot TR haven't always been old dudes, there was a time when they and Service rifle shooters were the same age. They just stuck together and made the time to shoot and also run the organization and we are where we are today. I see the problem and you should have seen it last year too, We as a group are too lazy to get involved or commit to doing something, very slow to get entrys in to a shoot(F-class and TR will have waiting lists for their championships) and don't want to run bugger all, but will be the first to ##### when it doesn't go right.

Well suck it up boys. It takes work to make a change.....Do you think an independant Shooting Association will actually fly when we can't even get our guys to attend an AGM? I can see the AGM now, Ryan and two other dedicated people sitting in an empty room. It takes a hell of alot more work to run a whole association than just two divisions and we can't seem to get people off their asses to get even that done.
 
I wonder if more activism at the range level would help. Would some local ranges be willing to put up posters, etc. encouraging day-shooters to come out to events? How many people are members at PoCo... 1800? It shouldn't be too hard to fill 20 seats in whatever competition / discipline you're after, be it TR or SR.

The carrot is always that if you're into the shooting sports there are going to be plenty of experienced (and LE/Mil) shooters to learn from.
 
Parker-Hale Mike said:
I never said it was going to be easy....It's a matter of what is important to the individual shooter. The old dudes that shoot TR haven't always been old dudes, there was a time when they and Service rifle shooters were the same age. They just stuck together and made the time to shoot and also run the organization and we are where we are today. I see the problem and you should have seen it last year too, We as a group are too lazy to get involved or commit to doing something, very slow to get entrys in to a shoot(F-class and TR will have waiting lists for their championships) and don't want to run bugger all, but will be the first to ##### when it doesn't go right.

Well suck it up boys. It takes work to make a change.....Do you think an independent Shooting Association will actually fly when we can't even get our guys to attend an AGM? I can see the AGM now, Ryan and two other dedicated people sitting in an empty room. It takes a hell of alot more work to run a whole association than just two divisions and we can't seem to get people off their asses to get even that done.
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Mike some very good points. If you really want to effect change in the BCRA then work from the inside it will allow you to change attitudes .

It wasn't always a given here in Alberta back in the mid 90's a group of shooters wanted to start shooting Service Rifle matches but had no range that would accomodate them. They approached the APRA ,several Fullbore members Earl Brown and Gill Hurst decided to support us there actions that day gave birth to the CSRA and we are part of the APRA. Thanks to a lot of hard work from then to now by previous and current executive committees we have a place in Alberta to shoot
 
That is exactly what I am saying Wayne. I believe there is no better vehicle to get us to where we need to go than an Association that is as old as Canada. We just need to get off our asses and get ahold of the wheel and stop crying from the backseat.
 
I have to join in on this discussion on a couple levels.

I was raised by a Bisley shooter, an Olympian and a 5-times Queen's Medal winner. If my father had not built the ranges and supported the clubs where he shot, he would never have been successful. He and the other rifle shooters lost their range when an unhappy minority seized control of the executive, rewrote the constitution and sold the range to their new body. Everyone from the old regime was personna non grata. It was a coup d'etat. (I felt numb looking at the pictures of the range and what has become of it.) I think a similar but less dramatic coup occurred in Alberta at Homestead. The lesson for the TR shooters has been to not relinquish control to ANYONE.

Years later I joined a PRA and was eventually voluntold to be President. We were having great difficulty getting onto the military long range. The solution was to build our own range. The TR shooters funded it, designed it and built it. They felt they had to protect the asset in the club. No single group of shooters would be able to oust another discipline, but everyone needs to share.

Which brings us round to the tactical shooters. Has anyone shown the executive the figures for where the F-class shooters are coming from, and how are those guys not indicative of the future?
 
maple_leaf_eh said:
I think a similar but less dramatic coup occurred in Alberta at Homestead. The lesson for the TR shooters has been to not relinquish control to ANYONE.
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I believe you are talking about the TR shooters relinquishing 1 of there 2 Governor Generals medals they receive annually to Service Rifle.Not much of a coup

maple_leaf_eh said:
Which brings us round to the tactical shooters. Has anyone shown the executive the figures for where the F-class shooters are coming from, and how are those guys not indicative of the future?
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Quite a few of our members go out and shoot matches with the TR guys
 
Savage said:
I believe you are talking about the TR shooters relinquishing 1 of there 2 Governor Generals medals they receive annually to Service Rifle.Not much of a coup


Quite a few of our members go out and shoot matches with the TR guys
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Savage: No the coup I am talking about was about 15-20 yrs ago. The TR guys did a tremendous job of getting the land and the range. They had internal problems with another discipline "horning in" on the direction and schedule. Blackpowder or shilouette shooters - it doesn't matter who, but the issue of trusteeship and governance is my point.
 
Maple Leaf thanks it would have been the Benchrest/ silhouette boys at Rosebud they the TR guys gave themselves a permanent position on the executive committee[Vice President]
 
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