BD3008 vs. BD38

Well, many of the Sten MkII's made at longbranch had windage adjustable sights. I know. I've owned a few of them ;)

Also, hard to walk rounds onto the target when you're using a 5 round semi-auto.

The Mp3008 and BD3008 both have rolled sheet steel receivers, much like the MkIII, except that the 3008 weapons have a continuous seam weld interrupted by the bolt handle slot and ejection port. Presumably, the tube was honed on the inside so the bolt would ride freely in the tube.

As I understand it, Sten MkII's were made from tubing, not rolled sheet steel.

On another note, while the pinned barrel is perfectly safe, it's non-removability has convinced me to order the BD38 instead. That way if the Ontario sh!t hits the proverbial fan, I stand a chance at converting it to non-restricted and keeping it.
 
CLAVEN2 & OTHERS;
1) One mag comes with the BD-38, but have a look at our "combo special" for a deal. BTW you never waste our time, we encourage contact, call, e mail, fax etc....

2) YES you can take the "combo pak" with the 3008 if you choose to do so....

3) The buttstock offered is the only one we have at this time....

4) As for MP-44 ammo, we have millions of rounds of surplus but unfortunately we are NOT permitted to import it.... We have dies and we have cases.

5) As for the machining standards of the BD-3008, well I have seen several examples of the original guns, they varied from very well finished to terrible, I guess it would depend on who made them and when.... But then again one can see this in many WW-11 firearms made by the Germans, I have some pre-war P-38s that are georgeous but on the other hand I have a 1945 Speerwerke that leaves alot to be desired....

I do have to agree with the many people on the board suggesting the BD-38, I am prejudice, I do own FA and CA versions and they are likely one of the most recognized SMGs of WW-11. a true classic (only my opinion)
If any questions, drop me a note john@marstar.ca
John
 
TIRIAQ;
You mention in lots of 100 pieces, well we are making them in larger numbers than that, costs are high.
I agree with you, if demand existed and we could look at 1000s of units we could drop the cost of production quite a bit....
Perhaps once we start delivering from and producing for the US ??
John
 
Claven2 said:
As I understand it, Sten MkII's were made from tubing, not rolled sheet steel.
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There were a many mkII stens made with rolled metal for the receiver. Most were recalled during the war because the design was not re-inforced inside the trigger sideplates, and after a while the outside of the receiver tended to buckle. These were the ones with the sideplates part of the roll. Other mkII stens also had the sideplates as part of the rolled and stamped receiver, but they also adequately re-inforced the area inside and double plated the trigger sideplates. This type was not recalled.
The recalled type can be easily identified by the selded on washers to either side of the change button, in order to give that area the proper width.
 
Here's another interesting MP3008 photo...
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CGN Equipment Exchange description:

WTS: RARE German WW2 MP3008 "last ditch Volkssturm" SMG.
Very Good mechanical condition, may have some surface rust. Some markings may be obscured. Bore is VG with strong rifling but some pitting in the grooves. The old, poorly done finish has been removed so you can finish to your tastes.

Does not come with magazine.

No returns. Payment by EMT only. PM if interested.
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A Home Made version of the BD3008 should be very possible.
The BD has been accepted.
Perhaps a home made BD could be registered using the established BD FRT number with a different -X.
A Sten Mk. II trigger box and head collar is pretty close to being correct. Barrel, barrel block, bolt and magazine housing assembly would have to be made. The BD trigger mechanism is no problem. I suppose that a Sten bolt could be cut, rotated and welded back together, although the extractor position would be wrong. The FRT entry for the BD describes the magazine housing assembly as being the receiver, so it would have to be scratch built. Doesn't really matter, there are no MP3008 parts.
 
It should be noted (amazingly) the BD3008 fires from an open bolt

it is identical to firing a genuine CA gun

and dont even ask how easy it would be to make....you know....
 
Claven2 said:
No, BD44's take 7.62 Kurz. Last place I heard of that made it was Privi Partizan in Yugoslavia, but I haven't seen any in years... though I stand to be corrected?
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I'm sure you meant 7.92 X 33 or 7.92 Kurz or 8 mm Kurz and had 7.62X54R on your mind.
 
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