Beam scale.

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I've read that the RCBS 10-10 is a very good beam scale but as its no longer available from RCBS what would be the next best scale without breaking the bank... I have no experience with a beam scale so any advise is appreciated.

GT.
 
A 505 or 502 I think it was are good as well. There is also one by Dillon available new. They're all made by Ohaus under various brand names so any one is good if it's an Ohaus.
 
The 5-0-5 has the same knives on the beam and same bearing blocks so they are pretty similar in accuracy, the difference is in the poise system used.

If you are ok with used then you could also try to find a Lyman M5

I have both a 505 and an M5, both bought used and they work great.
 
Not sure what the modifications and the guy in the USA is about but I assume the 505/502 are no longer as well. Ideas or comments on the one in the link below? As always there are good and bad reviews.

https://www.amazon.ca/OHAUS-3039327...fix=B+am+scale,aps,183&sr=8-6#customerReviews

Edit..Don't see any used RCBS 5-0-5's either.

ohaus makes the scales for rcbs and lyman.
this one is similar to a 505, same accuracy.

used (decent) reloading stuff seems to move fast these days.
 
Not sure what the modifications and the guy in the USA is about but I assume the 505/502 are no longer as well. Ideas or comments on the one in the link below? As always there are good and bad reviews.

https://www.amazon.ca/OHAUS-3039327...fix=B+am+scale,aps,183&sr=8-6#customerReviews

Edit..Don't see any used RCBS 5-0-5's either.

Yup that's it, Dillon also sells them in the Eliminator series. I'm not sure if there's any reason to buy one over the other, I believe Dillon has a good warranty reputation but Ohaus may also. They're the same scale.

You have to keep checking the EE as they go fast when they come up.
 
OP, do you really have your heart set on a beam scale???

I'm not knocking them and used one for several decades. I did have to replace the knife edges and the V blocks a few times. The scale is an Ohaus, close to sixty years old and still going strong.

I tried out several different balance beam scales, didn't find any noteworthy differences between them, including RCBS, Hornady, Redding and Lyman. All were basically knock offs of each other, except for the LEE

I finally ended up with a Dillon Precision D-Terminator, now appx ten years old. I've weighed thousands of charges on it and still haven't had to replace the batteries.

I do check the batteries to make sure they're still OK as far as charging and leakage.

I was able to get a couple of friends to bring over their digital scales for comparison.

One brought over a DS-750 Digital Reloading Scale

DS-750 Digital Reloading Scale
4.4 out of 5 stars 2,931
CDN$49.99
5 used and new from CDN$49. which he had picked up from Amazon, another brought over a Hornady G2-1500, which is also a very small mini digital, for around the same price.

I compared them to my Lyman D5, Ohaus 505, RCBS 5-0-5 and my Dillon Precision.

All of them weighed the same charge, in the same tray with close to identical results. The digitals were all within a tenth of a grain reading. The cheap ones were just as accurate and repeatable as the relatively expensive Dillon.

The beam balances were all accurate and repeatable on the same charge/tray and the only differences, around a tenth of a grain again, depending on how much care had been set to zero the balance bar.

All of the scales, balance or digital, weighed that same charge to +-.01 grain of the weight originally calculated on the Dillon.

I prefer the digital types. I have the Dillon as well as an MtM mini digital DS-750, which is identical to the C$50 unit above.

The only reason I prefer the digitals is because the load cells used to determine weight aren't bothered by a bit of a breeze across them, say from a fan or an open door, window.

The balance beam types are very dependable but are subject to breeze influence and their knife edges on the balance beam, pivot point, wear against the V blocks.

There is no way to lube those points. If you try, your results will not be consistent.

I used to repair/rezero huge triple balance beam scales to measure the ingredients used in making glass for commercial containers. When they were finally phased out and replaced with load cells, we ran into different issues, but very few and easily fixed. Maintenance expenses went way down and the operators of the equipment could easily check the zeroes by pressing a few buttons and getting readouts.

Same with digital powder scales. All you have to do to keep them accurate is use the little weight that comes with them to check the zero set on start up. Just press the reset button and check it out with the supplied weight.

The only other thing, the digitals have four rubber pads to rest on. The unit needs to be stable and works best when approximately level.
 
Not sure what the modifications and the guy in the USA is about but I assume the 505/502 are no longer as well. Ideas or comments on the one in the link below? As always there are good and bad reviews.

https://www.amazon.ca/OHAUS-3039327...fix=B+am+scale,aps,183&sr=8-6#customerReviews

Edit..Don't see any used RCBS 5-0-5's either.

That one looks the same as my RCBS 505, aside from being white instead of green. Mine is probably new enough it's a Chinese made one, but it seems to work fine. I've got a RCBS Chargemaster, and cross check between the two fairly often.
Kristian
 
Big fan of the Redding beam scale...
As long as it's not a Lee scale, and it's magnetically dampend it's gtg.

The problem I found with the digital scales, especially ones offered by the reloading companies, they are incredibly sensitive to temperature swings.

I found my Lyman was brutal for this, every time my furnace came on my measure was out... I was getting .4 grain swings when checked against a beam scale.
Some of those scales have a 30 minute warm up.. because the electronics warming up will keep changing the zero.

.1 grains arnt important? What?

I just leveled out some Chinese steel cases ammo powder loads.
It ranged from 22.4 to 22.9 grains,. I put the rounds all at 22.6 grains

Same ammo from the same rifle went from a 3.9 moa group to 1.8 moa
Plinking at 300 meters is a heck of a lot more pleasant when you can make all hits on a 6 inch gong rather then miss 1/3 the time .
That's also the difference between a hit box deer shot and a center mass winger.
 
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OP, do you really have your heart set on a beam scale???

I'm not knocking them and used one for several decades. I did have to replace the knife edges and the V blocks a few times. The scale is an Ohaus, close to sixty years old and still going strong.

I tried out several different balance beam scales, didn't find any noteworthy differences between them, including RCBS, Hornady, Redding and Lyman. All were basically knock offs of each other, except for the LEE

I finally ended up with a Dillon Precision D-Terminator, now appx ten years old. I've weighed thousands of charges on it and still haven't had to replace the batteries.

I do check the batteries to make sure they're still OK as far as charging and leakage.

I was able to get a couple of friends to bring over their digital scales for comparison.

One brought over a DS-750 Digital Reloading Scale

DS-750 Digital Reloading Scale
4.4 out of 5 stars 2,931
CDN$49.99
5 used and new from CDN$49. which he had picked up from Amazon, another brought over a Hornady G2-1500, which is also a very small mini digital, for around the same price.

I compared them to my Lyman D5, Ohaus 505, RCBS 5-0-5 and my Dillon Precision.

All of them weighed the same charge, in the same tray with close to identical results. The digitals were all within a tenth of a grain reading. The cheap ones were just as accurate and repeatable as the relatively expensive Dillon.

The beam balances were all accurate and repeatable on the same charge/tray and the only differences, around a tenth of a grain again, depending on how much care had been set to zero the balance bar.

All of the scales, balance or digital, weighed that same charge to +-.01 grain of the weight originally calculated on the Dillon.

I prefer the digital types. I have the Dillon as well as an MtM mini digital DS-750, which is identical to the C$50 unit above.

The only reason I prefer the digitals is because the load cells used to determine weight aren't bothered by a bit of a breeze across them, say from a fan or an open door, window.

The balance beam types are very dependable but are subject to breeze influence and their knife edges on the balance beam, pivot point, wear against the V blocks.

There is no way to lube those points. If you try, your results will not be consistent.

I used to repair/rezero huge triple balance beam scales to measure the ingredients used in making glass for commercial containers. When they were finally phased out and replaced with load cells, we ran into different issues, but very few and easily fixed. Maintenance expenses went way down and the operators of the equipment could easily check the zeroes by pressing a few buttons and getting readouts.

Same with digital powder scales. All you have to do to keep them accurate is use the little weight that comes with them to check the zero set on start up. Just press the reset button and check it out with the supplied weight.

The only other thing, the digitals have four rubber pads to rest on. The unit needs to be stable and works best when approximately level.

I do have the Hornady GL 1500 but I find that the reading does fluctuate from time to time and being new to this game I was thinking that having a beam scale to cross check might be handy.
Many thanks to all the offers and suggestions. I really do appreciate it.
 
I have an older 10-10, but there is nothing I've ever done that couldn't be handled with the 505. Treat it like the precision instrument it is and will work well. I now use it to check my horny powder thrower, but I don't do much of that anymore as the powder thrower works well enough for my uses.
 
Beam Scales:

The 1/10 of a Grain is really not worth worrying about for handloads used for hunting or plinking.
If one is that fussy then he/she better mount the Scale at Eye level to always get a level reading, mounting like that would not be very practical.

Cheers

If you center on a node, a beam scale can be very good. I use a web cam aimed at my scale, nice and easy to read on the computer, no bending over to read.
 
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