Bear attack
- Thread starter Slamfire
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dont, you will have good time.
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- In the shadows of the Rockies
A different approach for Black Bear vs. Grizzly sightings. We were fishing one afternoon the season before last and spotted what looked like a Black Bear about 400 meters downstream. Confirmed with binoculars it was a Black Bear and it appeared to be lone. I assured everyone it wasn't an immediate threat and just to stay close by. I had my Bear medicine handy.
About a 1/2 hour later it re-appeared about 80 meters upstream swimming across the river! That river is quite swift and deep. Amazing how strong of a swimmer a Bear is. It had kept its distance from us to get across the river.
Had it been a Grizzly it would have been time to leave the area immediately.
About a 1/2 hour later it re-appeared about 80 meters upstream swimming across the river! That river is quite swift and deep. Amazing how strong of a swimmer a Bear is. It had kept its distance from us to get across the river.
Had it been a Grizzly it would have been time to leave the area immediately.
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I have nothing but respect for guys getting up close and personal with grizz.... and nothing but respect for grizz themselves....... in fact, I am hoping to be part of a grizz hunt next year (even though I can't afford the trigger pull).....
That being said, why does every CGN thread have to denegrate to grizz defence?.....
Dude in the video dealt with a BLACK bear...... I have dealt with many, and yes they are unpredictable at times......
In regards to this thread, it would be nice to hear more of experiences like mine (from a small sample size), Hoyt's and others that have had "hairy" black bear experience.......
Instead we get a bunch of chest pumpers telling us all of the "manly" calibers they carry in bear country....
That being said, why does every CGN thread have to denegrate to grizz defence?.....
Dude in the video dealt with a BLACK bear...... I have dealt with many, and yes they are unpredictable at times......
In regards to this thread, it would be nice to hear more of experiences like mine (from a small sample size), Hoyt's and others that have had "hairy" black bear experience.......
Instead we get a bunch of chest pumpers telling us all of the "manly" calibers they carry in bear country....
No shiet, big gun little balls. Keeps a guy reading though. Growing up grizzlies and black bears passed through my yard and fields so frequently no one even gave much notice, like Fking crows around here yet as young kids and teenagers we'd spend hours hunting the surrounding bush with pellet guns, bows, 22s and an old clapped out cil 20 gauge, yet her we are. Some learn to live with their presence and respect them, some learn out of ignorance to fear them.
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- Location
- In the shadows of the Rockies
Responsible for the safety of others in that situation therefore near-zero risk tolerance. A Grizzly in the area is perceived to be more risky. Various authorities advise accordingly, an example -
"Bear-Human Encounters
Grizzly and black bear behaviour is similar in many
ways, but there are differences:
• Black bears tend to be more tolerant of humans
and often live near human settlements. Grizzlies
tend to stay away from people.
• Black bears tend to be less aggressive than Grizzlies..."
http://https://www.albertaparks.ca/media/123478/bear-smart-brochure-web.pdf
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then i will change my habits lol ... if the authorities is telling you what to do it is up to you ...
one anedoct: many years ago with our why not? his lovely wife, my wife parents and us we stayed few days in a fly out area (so in the middle of nowhere) far from civilisation...
a grizzly was living there and known by the pilot.
i m not a small man but that grizzly had scratched his back against a tree and the hair was higher than the tips of my fingers with my arms raised ...
do you think it stops us to camp here, fish and living our lives ... and that is nothing of being manly or not but doing thing and living the life and sharing it.
btw the rifles in camp were only 30-06s, 308, 303 and 9.3x62 plus some shotguns ...
we never saw that grizzly and never came while we were here ....but we all were aware of his presence ...
the closest we have been from a grizzly was 20 feet, the grizzly was aware of us, feeding on berries and grass and never it was an issue ... the mood is all about and nor human nor bears can be painted with a single brush ....
one anedoct: many years ago with our why not? his lovely wife, my wife parents and us we stayed few days in a fly out area (so in the middle of nowhere) far from civilisation...
a grizzly was living there and known by the pilot.
i m not a small man but that grizzly had scratched his back against a tree and the hair was higher than the tips of my fingers with my arms raised ...
do you think it stops us to camp here, fish and living our lives ... and that is nothing of being manly or not but doing thing and living the life and sharing it.
btw the rifles in camp were only 30-06s, 308, 303 and 9.3x62 plus some shotguns ...
we never saw that grizzly and never came while we were here ....but we all were aware of his presence ...
the closest we have been from a grizzly was 20 feet, the grizzly was aware of us, feeding on berries and grass and never it was an issue ... the mood is all about and nor human nor bears can be painted with a single brush ....
BigUglyMan
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- New Scotland
It was an observation. I'm not convinced half the people in this country could tell a native from a North Italian!
I think the average person out there, including most hunters it seems , don't understand that a black bear and a grizzly bear are two completely different animals by nature.
Grizzly bears are pure predator and "everything" that moves and has blood in it, in thier environment, is food. It's thier instinct plain and simple.
Most black bears are omnivorous and i think few turn into true predators like a grizzly. Don't get me wrong, there are ecosystems in our country where black bears are more predatory by nature but for the most part I don't believe this is so of all black bear populations.
I ain't no super hunter but I live in rural BC and spend the majority of my time out and about in the backwoods going to the endless tucked away pot hole lakes , generally alone. I can't even count how many black bears I've bumped in to. I've had to shoot 2 over the years for bad behavior and children where present both times or the situation might have been different and avoidable. Otherwise, I've been ridiculously close to several bears now in sudden and unavoidable encounters and still here to talk about it.
Just this week I've been within 50 feet of a big ass boar who keeps cutting thru my backyard right around sundown LOL I'll take a pic next time
45 packing could you point out any studies showing the predator diet of grizzlies?
the only predator carnivorous that we have in Canada is the polar bear ...
we can not use the same brush to point grizzly behavior being one kind for all the eco systems they are roaming ...
not that im taking lightly the risk but i do not over exagerate it .... otherwise we will have a bunch of killed people every year ...
but again we are far from the black bear attack shown on the beginning of the thread ....
the only predator carnivorous that we have in Canada is the polar bear ...
we can not use the same brush to point grizzly behavior being one kind for all the eco systems they are roaming ...
not that im taking lightly the risk but i do not over exagerate it .... otherwise we will have a bunch of killed people every year ...
but again we are far from the black bear attack shown on the beginning of the thread ....
Because your experiences with black bear are pretty unbelievable.
Why are you answering a question I didn't ask?..... lol
You won't find a lot of experience like yours Brad. Because they are unbelievable. Speaking of hairy chest pumping.
How is that?
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- In the shadows of the Rockies
Well-known naturalist and celebrated film maker author Timothy Treadwell shared his life with Grizzlies. They make great pets he would say
-...He lived with the grizzly bears of Katmai National Park in Alaska for 13 summers. At the end of his 13th summer in the park, in 2003, he and his girlfriend Amie Huguenard were killed by a 28-year-old brown bear, whose stomach was later found to contain human remains and clothing...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Treadwell
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I think the only time one has a problem with them furry bruins is when one starts thinking about them.
After reading the lad that wrote a few books on bears and bear encounters it made me think of all
the times we brushed by or had an encounter with them.
Gary........something?
I recall him mentioning most outdoor folk have had run ins with them but didn't consider anything of it.
I can remember fishing in Anderson River that flows thru Boston Bar when I was a wee lad single digit.
A fun creek/river to fish jumping bolder to bolder and dipping the pools with a wormed hook.
Dad could sure whistle and that one day he did.
The whistle meant to pay dear attention and he was on one side the creek, me the other.
A mother bear stuck her out of the bush and was looking over a boulder just downstream from paw.
Just below me on my side was her cub.
I ran the way old paw pointed.
We managed to escape that maw bear and her cub unscathed.
Somewhere around that time I was awarded the old 92 in 44-40.
I got to pack that Winchester with me fishing there on in.
Still with me today.
Lots of other stories, but that one stayed with me as I didn't realize at
the time what could of occurred.
After reading the lad that wrote a few books on bears and bear encounters it made me think of all
the times we brushed by or had an encounter with them.
Gary........something?
I recall him mentioning most outdoor folk have had run ins with them but didn't consider anything of it.
I can remember fishing in Anderson River that flows thru Boston Bar when I was a wee lad single digit.
A fun creek/river to fish jumping bolder to bolder and dipping the pools with a wormed hook.
Dad could sure whistle and that one day he did.
The whistle meant to pay dear attention and he was on one side the creek, me the other.
A mother bear stuck her out of the bush and was looking over a boulder just downstream from paw.
Just below me on my side was her cub.
I ran the way old paw pointed.
We managed to escape that maw bear and her cub unscathed.
Somewhere around that time I was awarded the old 92 in 44-40.
I got to pack that Winchester with me fishing there on in.
Still with me today.
Lots of other stories, but that one stayed with me as I didn't realize at
the time what could of occurred.
Well-known naturalist and celebrated film maker author Timothy Treadwell shared his life with Grizzlies. They make great pets he would say
...He lived with the grizzly bears of Katmai National Park in Alaska for 13 summers. At the end of his 13th summer in the park, in 2003, he and his girlfriend Amie Huguenard were killed by a 28-year-old brown bear, whose stomach was later found to contain human remains and clothing...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Treadwell
im not him ... they are not my pets i give them a lot of respect but i do share the land ..... look for the statistics and find me a study on carnivorous only diet for grizzly bear ... you may be surprise of what they eat ....
