Bear Defense thread.

Woohoo!!! a bear defense thread:D:D:D:D:D
I'm late but I'm here now lol
I love how the mods won't put a bear defense sticky, so I get to go through new threads :)

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The only way to kill a bear when he is charging at you is to jam a scuba tank in it's mouth and then when he is about to make another run at you shoot it with an m1 Garand......


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Arctic said:
I think your exposure factor to a charge goes up according to where you live and roam, ........don't think there's many griz charges in TO or even in Ontario. However, in the west, you expect to run into them in the mountains or the North. I'd expect Ardent (in High Level, Alberta) to run into enough bears to be charged eventually. Same here in the North, ......the odd charge around Yellowknife, but most local bears know man and avoid humans. Go north into the barrens where most animals have never seen or smelled a human and its a different story, ......if it moves, it must be food, and the bears are at the top of the food chain. As a guide, especially when packing or working on meat, I expect to be charged. I think all of my guides have been charged or stalked on lots of occurences, ......it's just part of the territory and you get used to it. Usually they can be turned away, but there's always that stubborn one that has to go down, ...and you have to be prepared and watch your surroundings.

My real dream, though, is to find a good getto bar in TO or Van, and toss in a grizz or a wolverine, bar the door, and find out who's really the toughest in the bar!!!
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Absolutely agree, the bears you meet in the middle of no road access nowhere are a whole different breed than those most will run into hunting gravel road areas and quad trails etc. Exposure is 9/10ths of the equation. Different ball game but I've been running into Lynx lately, a lot, and when they don't see people they will literally mill around you and take you in. No concern with a Lynx, just how when they haven't seen humans before they have no fear. I was within ten feet of a Lynx out in NE BC this week while he looked me up and down for a couple minutes and tried to figure me out (have video to prove it).
 
Lynx are great that way I had a couple of young ones close in like the last time I was working up north.

I've finally decided I've been looking at getting another 375H&H to give me performance between my 375JDJ & 375RUM and have finally decided to get a s/s T/C Encore with a 26" non-fluted barrel going to have it shortened to 22" plan on loading it with 260gr Accubonds for now then try out the new 250gr TTSX...

Will make a nice light short fast handling carbine capable of 400 yard shots I can always load it with the 270 - 300gr bullets I already have for close in do anything defense...
 
Ardent said:
Absolutely agree, the bears you meet in the middle of no road access nowhere are a whole different breed than those most will run into hunting gravel road areas and quad trails etc. Exposure is 9/10ths of the equation. Different ball game but I've been running into Lynx lately, a lot, and when they don't see people they will literally mill around you and take you in. No concern with a Lynx, just how when they haven't seen humans before they have no fear. I was within ten feet of a Lynx out in NE BC this week while he looked me up and down for a couple minutes and tried to figure me out (have video to prove it).
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I used to work in the same part of the world you are currently in and have had the same experiences you describe with lynx a number of times. Have literally been within a few feet of them. If I recall correctly lynx do their breeding around now and we would see alot of them...cool creatures.

Back to the bear note. I personally don't think it really matters if you are in a very remote area or an area frequented by people. There's bears with a bad attitude in both places. I actually think the bears that are used to people can be a bit more dangerous. I have seen both blacks and grizz in pretty dang remote areas that are making there way for somewhere else before I even noticed they were there. Barrenground grizz may very well be different though...I don't have any experience with them.
 
Have had many bluff charges through the years and usually this behaviour is very apparent. Had to shoot one two summers ago. A boar app 3 years old. We were camped in a remote region accessible by horse or jet boat only. It was early afternoon and I was reading a book and the wife was having a nap in the tent. Sensed something and got up and walked from our tarped wind shelter and saw the bear about 20 feet away. I yelled at him which in the past has always chased them away. At all times his eyes were on me and did not flinch. I yelled again and no response, then asked my wife to pass me my rifle out of the tent. I fired a shot at the ground and no response, fired a second shot and he ran about 60 yards through the thick spruce. The bear then turned and charged straight at me full speed, when he broke out of the trees at about 6 yards I fired as it was very obvious he was not stopping. He rolled a couple times and was dead three steps from me but cranked him again instictively. My wife had gotten the video camera but dropped it when the bear charged, so all that was recorded was her screaming and the two shots from the 30-30. I reported it to the local CO's on returning and had no bad feelings on this one. The sound track was pretty convincing.
Here is a photo of the the bear defense rifle taken on a hike a few days earlier.
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Yeah hey..hi

I'm looking for the "What do you think about the NAHC club thread". I was told to turn left at the "Why is the 30-06 boring thread", and then go a mile past the intersection of "Is the 223 to light for deer" and "Look at my custom painted Stevens 200"

Little help.

A bear defense thread? Seriously?
 
we encounter bears all the time in the bush in my line of work. they usually just run away after you shoot a bear banger or just yell at them.

But I carry in the bush for work now, because I figure eventually one of the buggers is going to think I am lunch. I am carrying a mares leg in 44 mag this year which will have 300gr hard cast loads.

When you encounter a black bear you just make sure it knows you are not to be screwed with. Chances of one actually attacking you are small. Most of us get charged, but they just run off. There are certain times of the year they are more aggressive than others, and those times are usually when people get charged. I did hear that some people working for other companies had to beat the bears with augers to keep them at bay though. Must have been some crazy ass bears...

Grizzly bears are a different story. If I thought one was going to be aggressive in any way I would shoot it without a second thought. I am not one for getting my scalp and face peeled off.

I am honestly more worried about wolves at this point. If one was to encounter a pack, that would be a pantaloon soiling experience.
 
Don't sweat the wolves, I run into them non-stop and they just plain aren't interested in us. Grizzlies are less of a worry than Black as well, ask anyone who's dealt with both (northern CO's especially).

You wouldn't happen to work for Beck 212? Somebody very close to me runs a rig for them.
 
Ardent said:
Don't sweat the wolves, I run into them non-stop and they just plain aren't interested in us. Grizzlies are less of a worry than Black as well, ask anyone who's dealt with both (northern CO's especially).

You wouldn't happen to work for Beck 212? Somebody very close to me runs a rig for them.
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Gotta agree, CO's I have spoke with say most predatory bear behaviour is displayed by juvenile male black bears 2-3 yrs.
 
I think people want a gun for peace of mind more than anything. I lived in Kitimat for 7 years, and running into a black bear there was extremely common. I never had one issue. Usually I wouldn't even leave my fishing hole. There are Grizzly there too and they are scary. I have never been charged, but I have backed out of a few trails awfuly scared. I could hear her teeth gnashing and the grunts it was making nearly made me crap my pants. A can of bear spray and a 44 mag ranch hand with 300 gr hard cast will make me feel better. Use the bear spray. It works! Internet bears are way scarier than real ones, but I do like the peace of mind from carrying a gun.
 
Kelly Timoffee said:
So, back to the question, not very many people have had to defend themselves against an attacking or aggressive bear it seems.
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Only heard of it once. It was an old timer, trapper/prospector, who was extremely extremely lucky when he had to dispatch a charging grizzly.

In all my own encounters, never.
 
Kelly Timoffee said:
So, back to the question, not very many people have had to defend themselves against an attacking or aggressive bear it seems.
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Actually, I'm surprised by how many on this short thread have had to deal with aggressive bears. And even though I always say that bear attacks are very rare, usually not much to worry about...When I start thinking about how many guys I know that have had to shoot aggressive bears, it's actually quite a few. More black bears than grizzlies, but certainly a number of grizz, too.

I actually was wrong when I said I've never had to shoot one. I've shot a number of bears that were acting aggressive near homes in our rural area.

I think those that spend much of their time in the bush or in rural areas are more likely to run into an ornery bear, which only makes sense.

I think that most of these encounters go unreported. Which probably skews stats somewhat.
 
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