Bear Spray???

powder burner,

No one is sure what an aggressive bear is going to do next...Least of all the bear! :D

FWIW when I sprayed the bear it was well within 20 feet (my buddy was backing me up with my 416 so I was pretty brave) I emptied the FULL can in the face/eyes/nose area. I was close enough to notice that the bear seemed to be holding its breath. I waited for the bear to breath in then finished the can on it and finally got a bit of a response.
The bear remained fairly unintimidated.

There was no noticeable wind yet we both got burning eyes/nose/face.
Judging by my reaction to the spray the amount I put on the bears face would quite possibly kill a human.
 
When outdoors, I always carry a handgun with me.

The laws are not strong enough to stop me from protecting myself from wildlife.

I figure, if you are responsible and discreet, you are hurting nobody.
 
crazy_davey said:
I have sprayed many cans of bear spray. IMO it is useless, might as well take the pepper shaker off of your kitchen table. If there is a breath of wind it is useless.

I have a few kicking around almost all the time, makes great seasoning on steaks. If the wind blows it back in your face consider yourself a seasoned bear meal.

If a bear is pissed off enough to put a full on charge, you had better have some lead to throw because pepper in a can will do SFA.

Take a can out and try it for yourself. I will send you one Powder Burner if you would like to try it out for yourself.

BTW, hippies and tree huggers love it because they don't like firearms :rolleyes:
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x100.....a charging bear has a way of making you forget a lot of things....like bear spray for instance. My son James carries a can of OC, but he is 8yrs old.
 
johnson said:
When outdoors, I always carry a handgun with me.

The laws are not strong enough to stop me from protecting myself from wildlife.

I figure, if you are responsible and discreet, you are hurting nobody.
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If I were you I probably would not broadcast that over the internet. :rolleyes:
 
Johnson - do yourself a favour and delete your post. The rules here are quite strict about not discussing illegal activities.
 
Back in Europe we had some powerful defence spray. It would knock the lights out of a full grown man in seconds. It had a paralizing effect for about couple of hours. It was illegal for civvies, but we carried it anyways, as did the police.... (it was relatively illegal for them too, but was issued as standard equipment). It was highly irritating. We fooled around once and tested it, sprayed it in a room... bad idea. Even though I didn't come in contact with the snow-like powder, it hurt for about half an hour.
I've been told it works on dogs.... though i never tried.

I wonder if it works on bears. I can see the point in not having them for sale over the counter, but I wonder if they thought of making them available for people going hiking in National Parks, where firearms are (abusive) prohibited.
 
Bear spray works............it's been proven many times.
100 % effective ??? not much is when you are dealing with a living animal that thinks for itself....to expect it to repel every single Bear in every scenario isn't realistic.

I'd still rather have a can of Spray then nothing........

But then I'd rather have a Rifle then a can of spray too :wave:
 
I have used it twice on bears one black, one coastal grizz. I believe it detered the black bear it paced back and forth huffing at the distance it was sprayed. A second shot sent him on his way. This bear was a nuisance bear not a charging bear. Big difference. I did catch some back spray in the swirling wind and it was enough to affect my vision and hamper my breathing.

A pissy Grizz I sprayed that was popping his jaw and bouncing getting himself worked up snorted and shook his head after being sprayed but he kept coming and eventually false charged me before veerng off at the last second.

Nothing replaces a firearm! The spray does give granola munching yoga folks confidence to stand and face the bear as they feel armed. The vast majority of charges are bluff charges provided you stand your ground. Therefore the spray might save some hikers unnacustomed to bear behaviour just by giving them something to do even if it is false confidence. On the downside that false sense of security advertised by companies and advocated as a bear deterence causes people to put themselves in situations they have no business being in as they are unnprepared.

Take the statistics you read about bear spray with a very large grain of salt. A charging bear is sprayed with bear spray just before it veers off and aborts a charge and leaves. The bear spray company tells you this is evidence that the spray works. An objective person however says that bears bluff charge a massive percentage of the time and knows correlation doesn't equal causation. I am not saying it doesn't work, I still carry it but don't rely solely on it.
 
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wetcoaster said:
Take the statistics you read about bear spray with a very large grain of salt. A charging bear is sprayed with bear spray just before it veers off and aborts a charge and leaves. The bear spray company tells you this is evidence that the spray works. An objective person however says that bears bluff charge a massive percentage of the time and knows correlation doesn't equal causation.
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Exactly.

Bears are like humans, no two are alike. No one can tell you what a bear is going to do in a charging situation, they can just make a guess. Bear spray companies make some pretty bold statements, most of which should be taken with a grain of salt.
 
Supposedly spray works better on Grizzly than blackys.....Like your going to see me packin this "hair spray" at my coastal bear camp :bsFlag:

I would rather pack a .22.[/QUOTE]

I live in revelstoke, bc and work 22 miles from where all the deliquents bears are released. Let me make this clear, the 45-70 is nice a .300 win mag or even a 12 gauge with 3.5 slugs is better....... but a .22!!!! is down right suicidal. or maybe that is your point. is the .22 for you if the bear spray doesn't work? because unless you can hit a bear charging at 30mph with a straight on eye shot your just gonna give make him very... very angry. And angry bears play with their KFC before they eat it...:rockOn: .
 
My appologies to aninchlow. :redface:

I promise not to stop bear charges with a .22 :D :D
 
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The percentage of capsicum in the spray must be correct and I understand that the high percentage sprays are becoming difficult to find. The spray cannot be too old, the range to the bear must be close, and the atmospheric conditions must be favorable. With all those variables I'll just carry a firearm thanks.
 
I could be wrong, but I think I remember for "frontiersmen" bear spray, common and popular amongst non-gun carriers in Alaska, works better than bear pepper spray available in Canada. (Not my first choice for defence)

Something about the percentage of capsicum.....like what Boomer and Eltorro said...except this USA product is not legal in Canada.
Kind of silly actually, one would think that our whinny governments would allow a very high percentage of strength anti-critter spray in lue of firearm carry.....ie: cities and such.

PS anyone here know what pressurized spray, CP letter carries carry for anti-dog?
 
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.... For "Bear Spray" to be effective, one would have to be up, and lot closer than I'd want to be ! Judging by the effect ( or not ) of the Police issued version, which is somewhat stronger, I'd hate to have my life dependent of ' spray ! ...... better than nothing I guess, but you sure as hell shouldn't count on it to be effective !!! ..... David K. .....
 
David K said:
.... For "Bear Spray" to be effective, one would have to be up, and lot closer than I'd want to be ! Judging by the effect ( or not ) of the Police issued version, which is somewhat stronger, I'd hate to have my life dependent of ' spray ! ...... better than nothing I guess, but you sure as hell shouldn't count on it to be effective !!! ..... David K. .....
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Actually depending on the brand of bear spray, generally the police stuff is not stronger, but when you are dealing with a difference of .9% it's moot if the wind blows it in your face during a Bear attack.

BTW bear spray can kill you if you have asthma.

In the woods I carry Bear spray, and it is pretty strong stuff, but I've had enough close calls to now carry a firearm regardless.

I'm not letting a bureaucrat or politician siting behind a desk take away my rights of self defence.

Bear attack fatality picture further down the page in this link:
http://www.sixbullets.com/firearms_main_page_1.htm#Gun Ri
 
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