beat up by 391 Beretta

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Guys, getting beat up shooting 100-150 rounds while shooting sporting clays. I've tired all the different adjustments to the stock but to no avail. Face slightly swollen after the day.

Stock needs more mods?
 
Man up! Lol

Really though what kind of loads are you shooting?

100 rounds of light target loads shouldnt be hurting like that.

How long you been shooting?

Stock might be too long for you though. You could always shorten it and get a nice recoil pad installed for minimal coin.
 
If you are shooting target loads you should not get beat up that bad with a 391. I would suggest you get help from an instructor or an experienced shooter.
 
Guys, getting beat up shooting 100-150 rounds while shooting sporting clays. I've tired all the different adjustments to the stock but to no avail. Face slightly swollen after the day.

Stock needs more mods?

If the gun is hitting your face you may have a pitch problem.
 
Lets just hope he is shooting 3 inch turkey loads.

Problem solved. Lol

All "joking" aside...

A gun that doesn't fit you properly can literally beat you to death no matter what loads you are shooting.
Last year I lusted after a high end O/U. Finally found a nice one and bought it. My first 25 with it gave me a nice mouse under my right eye. Had a pro fit it to me, still no luck. Had an adjustable Comb cut into it, changed the pitch still nothing but aggravation. Finally I gave up on it as I did not need another money pit.
 
A gun that doesn't fit you properly can literally beat you to death no matter what loads you are shooting.

That's very true. Proper gun fit is crucial. Couple years ago I had acquired a very nice 28ga CG Magnus that beat the heck out of my cheekbone over a single round (100) of Sporting Clays. Think that was the first time I had the pleasure of meeting CB at Galt and shot in his squad.

The following weekend (as the swelling came down :)), I shot 300 shells at Skeet/Trap using two different 12 Beretta 686s and did not feel any pain at all. Beretta O/Us fit me very well straight out of the box.
 
Weird. Maybe you just have low recoil tolerance. But it shouldn't be that bad. Personally, I LOVE shooting heavy recoiling 3.5" shells. Could rattle my teeth all day with em! Love it!

There would be a difference in shooting a 100 or more 3.5in shells on a clays course (even if that was permissible) and shooting waterfowl!
 
From this thread it appears that skeet and trap guns are the most important to try before you buy...

The component of proper gun fit must apply to both target guns as well as field models.

It is best ofcourse should one be able to validate that at length prior to acquiring a shotgun more particularly where a target gun is concerned. Field models will be somewhat more forgiving as those are shot far less in ratio to target guns.....still doesn't make that right although one may get away with such deficiency.

My 28ga Guerini was a field model that had very well regulated bbls and shot to POA. I could get away with that as a hunting shotgun. However, the pitch still wasn't right (for me) but I did not discover that till such time I shot that SC round.
 
Have been shooting for 25 years. Seems the last few Berettas i have had chew my face up. Havent had issues like this with my old model 12 or 870 of years past

That is because the stocks do not conform to the same dimensions as your previous old guns.
 
Usually face recoil issues are caused by pitch problems. Stock length can also be an issue. I assume that you are shooting with your gun mounted on your shoulder and head on the stock as opposed to a gun down position when calling for the target.

Generally speaking, when mounted your thumb should be a maximum of 2" from your nose and no less than 3/4". One of the top trap shooters says that the gun isn't too short unless you are poking yourself in the nose. There are always exceptions to every rule, but generally these are the numbers that stock fitters go by.

Assuming that your gun is within the above parameters, look at pitch. The usual problem is that the recoil pad doesn't come into full contact with your shoulder. Many of us are heavy chested and the stock does not have enough pitch. A temporary way of checking this is to add a couple of flat washers between the recoil pad and stock under the top screw of the recoil pad. You may need just one washer or three, but experiment. This is most likely the problem area.
 
Just a question

The 391 can come with a variety of recoil absorbing things such as a a large recoil pad or the Kick Off Recoil Reduction System.
Would those make the gun move more on the face?
 
Usually face recoil issues are caused by pitch problems. Stock length can also be an issue. I assume that you are shooting with your gun mounted on your shoulder and head on the stock as opposed to a gun down position when calling for the target.

Generally speaking, when mounted your thumb should be a maximum of 2" from your nose and no less than 3/4". One of the top trap shooters says that the gun isn't too short unless you are poking yourself in the nose. There are always exceptions to every rule, but generally these are the numbers that stock fitters go by.

Assuming that your gun is within the above parameters, look at pitch. The usual problem is that the recoil pad doesn't come into full contact with your shoulder. Many of us are heavy chested and the stock does not have enough pitch. A temporary way of checking this is to add a couple of flat washers between the recoil pad and stock under the top screw of the recoil pad. You may need just one washer or three, but experiment. This is most likely the problem area.

Thanks for the info. Makes sense. I have gained prob 15-20 pounds since the early days of shooting...

I've tried all the stock configurations to no avail.

Will try the washer trick.

Will advise...R:d:
 
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