Bedding release agent

Paste wax works as good as anything, if you think that some commercial product will do anything different go ahead with it. It has a simple job to perform, and it does it well.
 
Thanks for the reply’s so far guys. I have some Mothers carnuba wax, it’s a car polish. That should work I think. I might test it out on a 2x4 and piece of pipe.
 
I used Hornady one shot when I used jb weld on my bmag and it worked good. I did a test using vasalene, motor oil and the one shot. (Had lots of jb weld but no proper release agent and tried all these before having to run to town) They all worked but the one shot worked the best.
 
I have bedded over 20 using kiwi shoe polish every time. I have used JB extensively. Best option is Devcon steel putty, but that is a pricy option.
Anyhow, with shoe polish I have had no issues. The key is not to have a thick layer of anything between the bedding and the action/barrel. You want a mirror finish of your barrel/action when done.

Apply the shoe wax and wait until it hazes over. Then polish in until smooth. If unsure, apply another coat and do again. When using JB, I like to have it a bit tacky so I wait 30 min after mixing to apply to the stock. Then allow the JB to cure 24 hours. Be sure to clean off any areas seen between the stock and action using cue tips. I find if it is getting a bit messy a little application of hoppes #9 on a rag will help remove the messes.

The curse for any bedding job is action lock in. Be sure to fill any voids or depressions with plumbers putty or similar material. So if you are not diligent in filling the voids or areas that will grab you will be reminded when trying to remove the barreled action.
My 2c.
Elky...
 
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I either use Kiwi or Johnson's furniture polish. Unlike elkhuntr I don't buff it up. It goes on smooth enough not to worry about IMHO but if it works for him I don't see a problem with it other than the waxy polish may get wiped out of a crevice and the bedding compound can get caught, which later needs to be picked out.
 
Aero paste wax ( floor wax ) works well. Comes in a metal can, about 5 inches around and 2 inches deep. I've used to in the manufacturing of fiberglass parts, when I first got started in the fiberglass business...25 years ago. High temp mold release wax would work great too.
 
Wow 4 pages of release agents!?

Id hate to open the floor to what bedding compound is best!




......but seriously kiwi neutral shoe polish.....and devcon is actually cheaper pound for pound
 
jonh172 said:
Wow 4 pages of release agents!?

Id hate to open the floor to what bedding compound is best!




......but seriously kiwi neutral shoe polish.....and devcon is actually cheaper pound for pound
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I know, some fellas must feel like they are getting shorchanged unless they pay through the nose for some miracle product.
 
I will tell you the best bedding compound and why.

Either Pro-form or 3M panel bonding adhesive.

Two part epoxy based product that we use for metal bonding.

Why is it better than the others?

There is a small sized aggregate within the product that prevents over-tightening/clamping and squeezing the product out of your joints and seams and voids.

One two part tube will do 5-10 rifles.

http://ca.proformproducts.com/en/products/repair-products/adhesives/epoxy-panel-bonder/

https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-us/all-3m-products/~/3M-Panel-Bonding-Adhesive/?N=5002385+3293241847&rt=rud

Pretty sure they are the same composition, unless they have changed them unknowingly.
 
The best low tech release is Kiwi. I will not use Pam or any oils or greases as they make for an ugly job which someone is paying for, not to mention that any thickness of release will make for a loose fit. I have tested Kiwiand it works well although for production I use a real release agent that I buy by the gallon, it is a wax as well. Look out for anything with silicone as that can cause real problems with paint down the line. Epoxy adhesives do not generally make the best bedding compounds. They tend to be a bit rubbery so a joint will flex instead of breaking. I use Marine Tex for bedding. It will stick to metal fairly well and to composites or wood as well as anything. It has been tested for shrinkage etc many years after installation and it holds size and shape better than Devcon does. Funny because they are made by the same company.
 
Ian Robertson said:
The best low tech release is Kiwi. I will not use Pam or any oils or greases as they make for an ugly job which someone is paying for, not to mention that any thickness of release will make for a loose fit. I have tested Kiwiand it works well although for production I use a real release agent that I buy by the gallon, it is a wax as well. Look out for anything with silicone as that can cause real problems with paint down the line. Epoxy adhesives do not generally make the best bedding compounds. They tend to be a bit rubbery so a joint will flex instead of breaking. I use Marine Tex for bedding. It will stick to metal fairly well and to composites or wood as well as anything. It has been tested for shrinkage etc many years after installation and it holds size and shape better than Devcon does. Funny because they are made by the same company.
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Check out the West System line of Epoxies - they can be mixed with additives to get the properties you want. Silica for harder and microfibres as filler you can also color them to match either stock or metal. I've also used the additives with G2 epoxies with excellent results.
The great thing about that is you need just the one epoxy and you can tune it's properties for the task at hand!! :)

Epoxies are fine for actions (suitably altered) but epoxy will begin to soften at 270F (I believe, check out the MSDS for ) so for barrel bedding anything that will get hot - not such a great choice.

http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=20016&cat=1,110,42965,20016

+1 on the paste wax.

Also - fun fact, epoxy will not adhere to packing tape. so that's great for barrels - not so great for actions.


ha! - just ran across this: https://epoxyworks.com/index.php/what-you-can-do-if-you-dont-want-epoxy-to-stick/
 
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