Bedding?

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I've got a remington sps varmit in 308, I,ve had it for a while now but havent had a chance to test out its accuracy to the full, only been sighted really. I've read and watched many people who suggest that bedding this and free floating the barrel significantly improves the accuracy on this particular rifle since the barrel isnt floating. I really dont want to drop the money on a new stock with incorperated bedding I want to use the factory stock. I'm quite confident I can do a propper bed job. I was just wondering if anyone out there has experiance with this particular rifle and bedding it, and wether or not this is a good idea?

Thx
 
The biggest reason people buy another stock for it, is the factory synthetic stocks are flimsy and will have to be stiffened (forend) to get all the benefit from it, then after all that work your still left with the factory tupperware stock... By all means bed it, free float it and have some fun. BTW Bedding a rifle is ALWAYS a good idea if your looking for the best accuracy.
 
I have an SPS varmint in .223. In my opinion it is a PITA to bed that stock. You only have one chance to get it right and so much can go wrong and it is a crappy stock. I did bed the SPS stock.. I now have have a Bell and Carlson that has been skim beded.

Save your time and money and put it towards a quality stock.
 
Keep an eye on the EE for an HS Precision take-off as a good one to start with. Usually supply is pretty good, enough to keep the prices reasonable.
 
Any money/effort spent on improving the SPS stock is a waste in my opinion. The stock is designed to bend around the metal when the screws are tight. The stock depends on the metal to support it.
 
guntech said:
Any money/effort spent on improving the SPS stock is a waste in my opinion. The stock is designed to bend around the metal when the screws are tight. The stock depends on the metal to support it.
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Am I thinking of the right stock here? SPS is the piece of all-plastic crap that the cheapest new Rem700s come with? Right? No aluminum block or nothing inside it -- all plastic.

I bedded a buddy's all plastic SPS stock. You need to add aluminum pillars to do it right. I'm not sure why they even market a varmint rifle with this stock...

It's his intent to eventually replace the stock with an HS or something like that down the road - but for the sake of a bit of Devcon and a pillar kit, we decided to try and get a couple seasons out of the crappo-plastic that came with his rifle.

We opened the holes up big for the pillars and used a LOT of steel putty in the recesses of this rotton stock - but the end result was good. The pillars are straight and true, and the Devcon filled in well and it looks like an aluminum bedding block that has been skim-bedded now. Probably half a can of Devcon to do it.

With the first box of 180gr hunting ammo he bought, the bedding job brought his group from 2MOA down to around a minute. (Actually the first group fired after the bedding job was spectacularly misleading 1/2 MOA...)

Now he is playing around with decent ammo, and I think the bedding did the job. It shoots better than he does. He'll be catching up to it soon, and forking over the cash for a new stock around then.

I would say it was worth it because buying the rifle with THAT stock meant he had a bit of cash to play around setting himself up with everything else he needed to start shooting last year. The bedding cost him buying a can of Devcon and a small donation to my ammo fund for my time. Better than $600 for a decent stock. (for now.... it never ends, does it?)
 
Hi Guys,
I am completely new to this and was wondering is some one here can explain to me what bedding is and also what isthe difference between a bull barrel and free floating is? I read so much about bedding and all these new fancy stuff but dont know any thing about it. Please if I am in the wrong place, guide me and sorry if I asked the wrong question here, Since the topic was bedding I thought it might be appropriate for to ask.
 
larcon said:
I've got a remington sps varmit in 308, I,ve had it for a while now but havent had a chance to test out its accuracy to the full, only been sighted really. I've read and watched many people who suggest that bedding this and free floating the barrel significantly improves the accuracy on this particular rifle since the barrel isnt floating. I really dont want to drop the money on a new stock with incorperated bedding I want to use the factory stock. I'm quite confident I can do a propper bed job. I was just wondering if anyone out there has experiance with this particular rifle and bedding it, and wether or not this is a good idea?

Thx
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If you haven't tested accuracy to it's fullest yet I would encourage you to do a little load development. I have the same rifle and was pleasantly surprised to find it was consistently sub MOA out of the box with a good load. Clean the barrel often and well, as I found the factory tube started to foul within a couple hundred rounds and was very difficult to clean up if you let it go that far. Accuracy definitely suffered. Depending on your end use the factory stock may be fine, or at least hold you over until you can afford something better. As above, used HS Precisions come up in the EE often, usually under 300 bucks. Solid platform, but the ergos were not ideal for me.
 
naviga8or said:
Hi Guys,
I am completely new to this and was wondering is some one here can explain to me what bedding is and also what isthe difference between a bull barrel and free floating is? I read so much about bedding and all these new fancy stuff but dont know any thing about it. Please if I am in the wrong place, guide me and sorry if I asked the wrong question here, Since the topic was bedding I thought it might be appropriate for to ask.
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Bedding involves using an epoxy resin (Devcon 10110 or Marine tex etc) to fill in the stock so that the action, recoil lug and sometimes the first part of the bbl is in contact with (bedded to) the hard, and non-compressible epoxy. This gives the action a secure and firm place to sit that will be immune from changes related to temperature, humidy. In some high end Rem 700's an aluminum bedding block is used, and this is supported by an epoxy resin stock.

A bull barrel is a thick bbl, not sure if there is a specific dimmension but most I have seen are tapered to no less than one inch at the muzzle (in rifles). A straight bbl (I have used these in the past) has no taper and is 1.25 inches for its entire length

For accuracy you want your bbl to be freefloating, that means the there is NO contact between the bbl and the forend of the stock. This allows the bbl to have depenable and reproducible harmonics, and prevents small shifts that would occur when upward (sometimes sideways) pressure on the stock is transmitted to the bbl resulting in a small change in the point of impact
 
Good to know

roberti11 said:
Bedding involves using an epoxy resin (Devcon 10110 or Marine tex etc) to fill in the stock so that the action, recoil lug and sometimes the first part of the bbl is in contact with (bedded to) the hard, and non-compressible epoxy. This gives the action a secure and firm place to sit that will be immune from changes related to temperature, humidy. In some high end Rem 700's an aluminum bedding block is used, and this is supported by an epoxy resin stock.

A bull barrel is a thick bbl, not sure if there is a specific dimmension but most I have seen are tapered to no less than one inch at the muzzle (in rifles). A straight bbl (I have used these in the past) has no taper and is 1.25 inches for its entire length

For accuracy you want your bbl to be freefloating, that means the there is NO contact between the bbl and the forend of the stock. This allows the bbl to have depenable and reproducible harmonics, and prevents small shifts that would occur when upward (sometimes sideways) pressure on the stock is transmitted to the bbl resulting in a small change in the point of impact
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Thanks for the explanation, that sure helps a lot.
 
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