Beeper/Electric hunting dog collar recommendations?

[Jay]

Hello Folks;

Well... The time has come... My German Wirehair Pointer has decided he hates porcupines... Yesterday was his fourth 'go' @ a porcupine & I need Nos to decide for himself that he wants nothing to do with them...

So, what say you re: electric beeper/shock collars? Who's got a good waterproof & durable product? Who has the best price?

Cheers & Thanks
Jay
P.S. This time around, I was able to pull all the quills... But here is the $1271 pic from last time...Ugh puppies!

 

[looch]

I've got a Dogtra T&B. I like it because I can keep it on "silent" and I can hit a tone button to find her if need be.

 

[kamlooky]

I bought a used Innotek from a fellow nutzs that works well.
It has replaceable batteries, a nine volt in the handheld and a
round camera battery in the collar.
Not horrible pricey, but at least one can take spare batteries along
rather than looking for a plug in to recharge the units battery.
This one I can set the shock setting on the hand held as need be
without the collar around.
There is a third button that hits an automatic #7 and phuck me, it hurts
the pinkies.
It has a 0-9 and it can be set in different sequences.
I like the buzz and then the jolt.
This is an older unit and for all sakes and purposes, works well.
When the pup gets out of range, I give her a little beep and she
stops, puts her head in the air, finds me and comes trotting back.
Not sure why this works, but it does each and every time.

There is a ton of info on Google-Fu and all sorts of different
products and options.
This particular set up is suppose to work for a mile.
Not sure if I believe it or not, but it hasn't let me down yet.

Good luck Jay the little pine eater is worth it.

 

[Redsoilreaper]

I've been using Dogtra for my Brittany Spaniel, the last year and had no issues at all with the collar and remote. He's been swimming at the beach(Atlantic Ocean) and never had a problem with it. Its the 280 np model, and does not come with a beeper, but a pager button...... that pager button works well!

 

[safety first]

I use the sport-dog SD -400

I don't recommend.

It zaps ok, but the "beeper" is really quiet. Too quiet to work properly in anything but stillness.

Perhaps mine came defective from the factory


But I wish I had the vibrate feature either way.

 

[scott_r]

I've got a Tri-Tronics G3 Upland. Its got the beeper and shock collar. If you're gonna spend the money get the best. Tri-Tronics is a really solid product. Im on year 3 with it on my German Shorthair and its been through everything and still works like new.

Cheers!!

 

[G P]

I've got the tritronics sport combo. It's a great product. The only downside is that the tone is very quite and basically useless. Only the dog could hear it if she was standing still. It's very durable, my dog has scratched it up a ton and I've used it in salt water a lot, never fails.

I would recommend the sport upland version of the collar. It has the beeper when your dog is pointing. Great in the thick brush.

Your pic makes me glad I live on an island with no porcupines. My dog did have one encounter on the mainland though. Luckily she only barked at it and didn't get close enough to get quilled, even when she had it cornered.

If thousands of quills to the face wouldn't stop your dog, what makes you think an e-collar will?

 

[Jay]

I've got the tritronics sport combo. It's a great product.

I would recommend the sport upland version of the collar. It has the beeper when your dog is pointing. Great in the thick brush.

Your pic makes me glad I live on an island with no porcupines.

If thousands of quills to the face wouldn't stop your dog, what makes you think an e-collar will?

Thanks for the info. You live on 'my' island... He he, I'm originally from the rock... And, I don't know for sure if aversion training with a shock collar will work, but I'm hoping!

Keep the info coming guys! I gotta do something about this BEFORE hunting season starts!!! Otherwise it'll be...

Cheers
Jay

 

[crazy_davey]

If thousands of quills to the face wouldn't stop your dog, what makes you think an e-collar will?

I would have to ask the same thing Jay, It would seem that your dog is a bit slow in the learning department. OK, maybe a lot slow

Had one of the Innotek collars for a short while, worked great, but then again our dog was a fast learner

Good luck!

 

[planemaker]

I've got a Dogtra T&B. I like it because I can keep it on "silent" and I can hit a tone button to find her if need be.

x2
I've had mine for 6 years, never have I had to use it at more than 35% nick to correct any behaviour. Trained my Brittany to recall to me on the locate beep. I have used it heavily and did have to replace the rechargeable batteries this year.
Overall very happy with it.

 

[blaxsun]

If NOS has fairly thick fur where the probes would touch, shaving a bit off makes a world of difference. I'm not saying we enjoyed zapping our Siberian Husky (well ok, maybe a little - he did run off every chance he got!), but it was sure a sight to see when he bolted and we let him have it about 50-yards into his stride... it was like he was struck by lightning. 2-3 zaps was all it took for 'behaviour modification'.

 

[gunnut870]

For all those planning to use an electric collar on their dog; play this game with a buddy first:
Put the collar on a low setting and place it around your neck.
Your buddy needs to make you do something simple, but you do not know what it is and he is not allowed to tell you; he can only zap you if you get it wrong. This is a simple exercise that will give you better insight about the limitations of these collars.
They are very useful tools in properly trained hands, but a lot of good dogs get ruined by overzealous use of these collars. Some people think they are a remote control for their dog and that is NOT how it works...

 

[G P]

For all those planning to use an electric collar on their dog; play this game with a buddy first:
Put the collar on a low setting and place it around your neck.
Your buddy needs to make you do something simple, but you do not know what it is and he is not allowed to tell you; he can only zap you if you get it wrong. This is a simple exercise that will give you better insight about the limitations of these collars.
They are very useful tools in properly trained hands, but a lot of good dogs get ruined by overzealous use of these collars. Some people think they are a remote control for their dog and that is NOT how it works...

There is a bit of a process to properly train your dog for the collar.

 

[looch]

x2
I've had mine for 6 years, never have I had to use it at more than 35% nick to correct any behaviour. Trained my Brittany to recall to me on the locate beep. I have used it heavily and did have to replace the rechargeable batteries this year.
Overall very happy with it.

I wrestled with the tone thing for awhile. I decided that the best option - for me - was to have the dog ignore the tone completely. That way, if I decided to use the "point and track" or "point-only" modes, I wouldn't have the dog reacting to the beep. Even this has its pitfalls though - if the collar is only used in point-only mode, you have to be sure the dog isn't tricked into pointing when you hit the tone.

 

[Dominion Link]

I use Tritronics, and most of my hound hunting buddy's do as well. I can't really think of any issues that we've had with the units- they collars and handhelds hold a charge well, I can testify that mine has been effective out to 500ish yards (they are supposed to be effective out over a mile), 6 levels of stimulation, and they are rugged enough for coon hunting.

 

[metcalfe]

I use the sport-dog SD -400

I don't recommend.

It zaps ok, but the "beeper" is really quiet. Too quiet to work properly in anything but stillness.

Perhaps mine came defective from the factory


But I wish I had the vibrate feature either way.

I have the same collar and am very happy with it.
The tone feature it has is to tell the dog something, not the handler. I trained mine to 'come' to the tone, and it works great.
A beeper can be added and is used to tell the handler when the dog is on-point or where it is.

I have a Vizsla and they're known to work close, so the 400m range is plenty for me.
From what I hear about gwp's you'd want something with a longer range.

Sportdog is a quality brand, but regardless as others have said, the intro/training are the most important aspect.

 

[sjemac]

We put the collar on Warden every time we took him outside. We didn't zap him at all for the first two weeks. He soon associated the collar with fun. Our collar has two modes. It has a nick mode and a continuous stimulation mode. The nick mode is used for getting his attention or calling him off something quickly. We use continuous stimulation when he is exhibiting a behavior that we want him to stop or when he trespasses into an area that we do not wish him to enter. We use the continuous stimulation and hold it down until he either stops the behavior or exits the forbidden territory. He's a lab so he works closely anyway.

 

[Thinking]

I use a TriTronics Pro 500 and would reccomend anything out of their mid to top end, some of my training partners use Dogtra and they seem OK too. As soon as you get it start putting it on him and ensure he wears it lots before it ever gets turned on so it becomes part of his "going out" gear and doesn't get associated with the sensation it gives when it's used to correct him, or he may become collar wise.
I would reccomend this as an initial training program. http://dobbsdogs.com/library/pointing/index.html
Follow the three action introduction first before any further training is done with it.

 

[Jay]

Thanks for all the help guys! I am having a serious look at the Dogtra 2500TB... Any comments on that model?

Aversion training IS gonna happen!!! And the collar is cheaper than the next vet visit...

Cheers
Jay

 

[looch]

The 2500 has the beeper/receiver/stimulator in one unit. On the older model - the 2000 - the beeper is separate and close to the opposite side of the collar, on top of the dog's neck. I purposely searched for and bought the older model.