beginner precision rifle... What to choose?

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Hi, i'm a beginner in target shooting and i would like to acquire a first rifle (would like a affordable but good precision rifle) but every precision rifle i see are in the 1000+ and doesn't have sights... (just scopes). So i would like to know what should i get for a starter which is affordable? (for a beginner not wanting to spend 1000+ for a starter....) (ammo/rifle)? and with normal (rifle) sights...

Thank you very much
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Ok, and what would be the best choice in centerfire rifle? (don't get me wrong, .22 is great and cheap but i would like to have something more... loud? (centerfire)...:rolleyes:

And also, i haven't seen any savage .22 with sights (with thumbhole stock) on frontierfirearms.com, any ideas where i could find one in these price range?

Thank you very much
 
I would think that if you want to shoot precision with iron sights, then standard open sights would not be desired. Rear peep, micrometer adjustable, hooded front sight, preferably with interchangeable inserts. Try to find a good used centrefire target rifle. There should be some available. As mentioned, there are Swede rifles, and probably some used custom 308's available from old time shooters.

Are you sure you want iron sights? A Savage or Stevens in 223 with a Bushnell 3200 10x scope would shoot pretty nice groups and not cost an arm and a leg. Probably could put something like that together for $750.00 or less.
 
Grizzlypeg said:
Are you sure you want iron sights? A Savage or Stevens in 223 with a Bushnell 3200 10x scope would shoot pretty nice groups and not cost an arm and a leg. Probably could put something like that together for $750.00 or less.
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+1 on the Stevens in .223, it will be the cheapest choice that shoots well and uses cheap(er) ammo.

If you really want precision use and iron sights, then you should find a used target rifle and buy that. Be aware that anything that has quality iron sights will cost a lot, because high end iron sights are lots of $$$ all on their own.

Honestly, buying a Savage .22 would be a great place to start to get experience before deciding on something more for your next rifle. It should shoot near MOA at 100yds with decent ammo and will be the best training rifle you can find, while shooting the cheapest ammo around.

Mark
 
Great, guess i'm gonna shop for a savage, i don't actually want a super good iron sight but i would just like to have one for the time i buy a decent scope... (and if i buy something better, i could put my scope on another one and still have a good .22 with sights...)

Thank you very much
 
Forget Savage buy an Anschutz 180 with iron sights. Good quality .22 ammo isn't as cheap as some people think, top of the line Eley as $150 a brick if you are looking for sub MOA at 100 yards.
 
I agree with Maynard.

I'll be blunt: The best you're going to find in a centerfire rifle within your budget is a cheap sporting rifle. Yeah, you can make noise and yeah, you will get your one inch group, but you'll never get better than that. Precision shooting also takes precision reloading. Unless you are willing to walk down that path too, you're simply looking at buying a hunting rfle to use for target shooting (bad idea).

Every second you spend with a quality firearm is an investment in your shooting skill. You don't learn to be a better shooter with a cheap $350 "sporting" rifle.

A High-end target rifle like an Aschutz is worth every cent, and you'll get every cent back when you want to sell it (that is IF you ever sell it... a target rimfire is a gem)
 
With the short distance being mentioned I'd say an SKS (if you want centrefire). Ammo is cheap, gun is cheap and is quite accurate with iron sights to that distance.
 
Obtunded said:
You don't learn to be a better shooter with a cheap $350 "sporting" rifle.
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Bulls**t. Some of the best skill building can be done with a 'cheap' rimfire sporting rifle shooting gophers on a windy day past 100yds. You do not need to spend thousands on an anshutz,.. although it's nice... it's not needed.
As for your 'precision' reloading being key.... again.. bulls**t. In the BR world, yes... it's important. But the VAST majority of people who view this forum don't compete, and have no intentions of doing so. You can still sit down with a box of bought ammo, decent rifle, a boxa' beer, and blast away. And still achieve MOA, or vary close too... R:d:
Precision doesn't always mean formal competition with top dollar having to be spent.
 
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any rimfire will do, but if you want to step up to centerfire than look at a Remington SPS-V in .223 affordable and will get you into 1" groups @ 100yards plus its a good base to start a project with.IMO
 
Thanks, think i'll get a savage in .22, do you know if there is any model here in canada with thumbhole stock (like the one at frontier firearms) and with iron sights? (i would get a scope but like i said, if i buy better and remove the scope, would like to keep a .22 with iron sight...

Thank you very much
 
sackofnoise said:
Thanks, think i'll get a savage in .22, do you know if there is any model here in canada with thumbhole stock (like the one at frontier firearms) and with iron sights? (i would get a scope but like i said, if i buy better and remove the scope, would like to keep a .22 with iron sight...

Thank you very much
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The thumbhole model is the Mk.II BTV (blued finish) or the BTVS (stainless finish). Neither come with iron sights from Savage. Price at WSS was about $470 for the BTVS last time I checked a number of months ago.

Mark
 
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