Beginnings of a custom Model 70
- Thread starter chuck nelson
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Not any more. While the 284 is a neat idea, the action choice prevents it from making any sense.
Riflesmith
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Whatever you decide it is going to be a dandy! When you start with good parts you should end up with a hell of a nice looking great shooting rifle. Please keep us posted with pics.
Are you telling me that the 284 is the same animal as the 7X57 in that action?
in the fact that neither utilizes the 3.400" magazine, never mind the 3.600" magazine that the action can be made to fit, yes.
but thats just me and I tend to fret about such things, and in a panic end up going 30-06. Again
.in the fact that neither utilizes the 3.400" magazine, never mind the 3.600" magazine that the action can be made to fit, yes.
but thats just me and I tend to fret about such things, and in a panic end up going 30-06. Again
I spoke with Echols about the chambering and all he could do was mutter "that's an awful long action."
You right handed people and all your options just tick me off sometimes. I like the Model 70, I want a 7X57, what else am I supposed to do?
My wife likes the idea and asked if she slammed both my hands in the car door if I would quit building rifles. I reminded her of the income I bring home and she offered to teach me to type with a pencil in my mouth.
That there is funny. One of those minutes when I wish I had no short term memory and I could experience reading that for the first time again.
I say .284 because I am bias. But you could seat some really long 160gr bullets out and get 2800fps. Then it would be worth it. Or you could borrow TK's reamer and commit the sacrilege of Ackleying THE classic cartridge.
gunrunner8
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You right handed people and all your options just tick me off sometimes. I like the Model 70, I want a 7X57, what else am I supposed to do?
Buy LH Rem 788 in 6mmRem, lenghten the magazine to 3,1" and rebarrel it to 7-57 or better jet to 7-57 RCBS IMPROOVED like I did say at least 15 years ago, sold her to the local guy and still regreting doing it. It was very light and accurate carabine, painted with black epoxy with grit and single column magazine fed the cartridges like a lightning. If I ever come accross such model I will do it again! now my LH Ruger in 7mm-08 will do.
Ardent
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I have the same build lined up in pieces here (7x57 M70), but with a #5 contour Lothar Walther, NECG sights, barrel mount sling swivel, and an exhibition black walnut blank.
The 7x57 fits just swell into a standard M70 action, as the feed rails are closely spaced on the M70, the bit of extra length makes no difference for feeding. I stagered 7x57 rounds in my mag, one right to the back of the mag, then one to the front, and so forth to a full mag. Got 100% feed reliability, and smooth as greased lightning. Also tried all rounds forward, all back, etc same results. With 175gr bullets especially, there actually isn't much wasted room in the mag. And you'd be able to seat way out too, giving a hefty boost to the 7x57.
The 7x57 fits just swell into a standard M70 action, as the feed rails are closely spaced on the M70, the bit of extra length makes no difference for feeding. I stagered 7x57 rounds in my mag, one right to the back of the mag, then one to the front, and so forth to a full mag. Got 100% feed reliability, and smooth as greased lightning. Also tried all rounds forward, all back, etc same results. With 175gr bullets especially, there actually isn't much wasted room in the mag. And you'd be able to seat way out too, giving a hefty boost to the 7x57.
I am another who is fond of the 7x57 but, I have to admit, the idea of all that unused magazine space would bug me as well. Consequently, I would have to go with the 280. Furthermore, I would lengthen the throat to allow the bullets to be seated further out since there is plenty of room to do so.
In a pre-64 (lefties need not apply) the 7x57 is close enough and this will be the chambering I use for my money-pit Model 54 Winchester ( For some reason, every time I make a deal with someone from Logan Lake, I walk away feeling slightly violated. I think there is a clique of horse traders up there who view me as a sheep to be sheared. I've been told the pain will fade with time! ). Just to hedge my bets, the pre-64 action I got at the Kamloops gunshow (I lost my posterior on this trade as well) I barreled in 280.
At the risk of veering off-topic, the Model 70 might be one of the best examples of my trading acumen. First, I traded a darn good shooting, glass-stocked Sako 270 for a well used 1951 Model 70. I planned to re-stock so I traded the stock for about 40 dollars worth of used dies (280 and 7x57). After re-barreling to 280, I found I didn't have time to make another stock so I traded about 120.00 worth of work for a dinged-up stock very similar to the one I had gotten rid of. I then spent a week re-bedding and refinishing the stock. I don't want to think about how much I actually have invested in this 280. The 7x57 will take me even further into the financial red zone.
Most have heard of the guy who started out with a paper clip and ended up with a house (the house was in Saskatchewan, mind you). I would be more likely to go the other way and could probably do it in far fewer trades too! Regards, Bill
In a pre-64 (lefties need not apply) the 7x57 is close enough and this will be the chambering I use for my money-pit Model 54 Winchester ( For some reason, every time I make a deal with someone from Logan Lake, I walk away feeling slightly violated. I think there is a clique of horse traders up there who view me as a sheep to be sheared. I've been told the pain will fade with time! ). Just to hedge my bets, the pre-64 action I got at the Kamloops gunshow (I lost my posterior on this trade as well) I barreled in 280.
At the risk of veering off-topic, the Model 70 might be one of the best examples of my trading acumen. First, I traded a darn good shooting, glass-stocked Sako 270 for a well used 1951 Model 70. I planned to re-stock so I traded the stock for about 40 dollars worth of used dies (280 and 7x57). After re-barreling to 280, I found I didn't have time to make another stock so I traded about 120.00 worth of work for a dinged-up stock very similar to the one I had gotten rid of. I then spent a week re-bedding and refinishing the stock. I don't want to think about how much I actually have invested in this 280. The 7x57 will take me even further into the financial red zone.
Most have heard of the guy who started out with a paper clip and ended up with a house (the house was in Saskatchewan, mind you). I would be more likely to go the other way and could probably do it in far fewer trades too! Regards, Bill
