Being too demanding?

After handling the AR180B I paid 1600$ I would never buy one at that price again but I guess it's always nice to make a thread to help sell your product isn't it!?!?!?
That being said I have a sweet Famae 542 but wouldnot ever trade it for your 180B unless you were to add say another 1500$ on top ;-)
 
bfiles said:
it's always nice to make a thread to help sell your product isn't it!?!?!?
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many people on here do that :)

op your thread title asks if youre being too demanding (your words not mine) so that you could gauge the opinions of others on here. i would say youve gotten several firm answers to that question. so changing your expectations or keeping the 180b seem to be your options. or you could always get lucky :)
 
Sell your 180B for cash. It will sell to the right person for the right price. Put that money towards your black 7.62 NATO rifle. You'll likely get more in cash than you would trade-in value anyway.
As much as I personally like the 180/180B platform, I will be the first to say it isn't a $1500 rifle. I never paid more than $1000 for any of the ones I bought....and I never would.
 
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I had several AR 180'S from the last shipment into Canada. 1 I sold a few months later for a couple hundred more than I paid (not a bad deal) I still have 1 left unfired condition and if I could get $2500 for it it would be gone in a heartbeat! Heck maybe even at $2000 it would be gone, but realistically they aren't worth anywhere near that. They maxed out at $1600 to $1800 and were way overpriced at that. If they kept producing them for Canada they would still be a $800 rifle to this day.
 
BadLieutenant said:
Personnaly, I do not understand the fact of spending over $2000 for something as a semi-auto restricted subgun with a 5 rounds magazine you don't have to, some only shoot at a range

...... what "thrill" do you get from that besides the tacticool factor? lots, 5 shots in a fun gun, whats not to like and whats it too you? Some gun nut :jerkit:

Those things are not all that accurate theyre not all that inaccurate either, im sure mechanical accuracy isnt far off most anything else semi auto

.....no stock....I don't get it. ever heard of a pistol?
(I would buy a JR carbine way before buying a subgun if I wanted to shoot pistol cartridges)I have one, kinda hokey, id take a evo or mpx all day everyday over it. Its like comparing a ar180b to a Famea 542, XCR M or high end AR10

Everybody is entitle to buy what ever they like....it was an answer to the AR180b not being worth more than $1000....at least it's non restricted and still shoot decent groups

BTW, I do not care if a rifle is restricted or not.....I shoot in the US......as soon as I cross the border, it is not restricted anymore.So why are you ####ting on restricted sub guns? Full mags and shoot where you want, The ####s the problem??[
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Yeah we realize,

Runningfool said:
You seem to have difficulty understanding that some people do not think like you do...I'm not sure if that means you are being too demanding or just arrogant. Regardless, it isn't surprising that you are disappointed with the responses to your ad.
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summed it up except should have said a massive amount of difficulty. The fail and endowment effect is strong with this one.
 
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crashcollins said:
I had several AR 180'S from the last shipment into Canada. 1 I sold a few months later for a couple hundred more than I paid (not a bad deal) I still have 1 left unfired condition and if I could get $2500 for it it would be gone in a heartbeat! Heck maybe even at $2000 it would be gone, but realistically they aren't worth anywhere near that. They maxed out at $1600 to $1800 and were way overpriced at that. If they kept producing them for Canada they would still be a $800 rifle to this day.
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How could they still be an $800 rifle if they cost around $1400 to buy new when they discontinued them?
Have you compared them to what passes for a $1000-$2000 rifle these days? For under $2000 I'll take my 180 every time, if you up the budget to $3000+ then my NR ACR takes first choice if the plan is to stay non restricted.
I'll do you a favor and give you $800 for your unfired 180, just because I'm such a nice guy :)
 
They were a low production rifle that rarely made it into Canada. Exports were spoty especially near the end of production. Low numbers and NR status artificially inflated the prices in Canada and we gladly paid those prices.

Had they kept producing them and had regular exports to Canada price and value would not have climbed the way they did.

And yes I have compared them to several other rifles I own in that caliber, not saying it's not a decent gun! It's a polymer and stamped steel gun and in all reality not worth what they are going for now or even what I paid for them when I bought them.

If you really really want mine I'll sell it to you for $2600.00 LOL
 
crashcollins said:
They were a low production rifle that rarely made it into Canada. Exports were spoty especially near the end of production. Low numbers and NR status artificially inflated the prices in Canada and we gladly paid those prices.

Had they kept producing them and had regular exports to Canada price and value would not have climbed the way they did.

And yes I have compared them to several other rifles I own in that caliber, not saying it's not a decent gun! It's a polymer and stamped steel gun and in all reality not worth what they are going for now or even what I paid for them when I bought them.

If you really really want mine I'll sell it to you for $2600.00 LOL
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Lol, $2600? I'll get back to you :p

Nothing wrong with polymer, ever heard of HK? My ACR has a polymer lower and it doesn't worry me at all, many manufacturers use polymer in their construction and it holds up just fine even in the winter, most people seem to think that because Armalite had a few lowers break that all their rifles are ticking time bombs, fact is that they got a bad batch of polymer that compromised the lowers of one run of rifles and other than that most failures have been from user error not material problems.
Stamped steel doesn't make them cheap or crappy, my Swiss Arms was stamped steel and it was a good rifle and was also expensive.

NR status inflates the price of every rifle we have available to us in Canada, I guess it just bothers me to hear people say it was/is an $800 rifle just because that's what they sold for in the US years and years ago. No one accounts for inflation, NR tax, retailers here making money, etc.
Saying it's a $800 rifle is like saying an AR is a $500 rifle because that's what you can buy the cheapest one for in the states, you have to compare to similar items in the same market, the US dollar is and has for the most part always been stronger than the Canadian dollar other than for a couple years not too long ago when we were bouncing around par with them.

I will agree though that these are not $2000+ rifles and people asking that much are pretty optimistic. If you can find a sucker to pay that much then more power to you but in my mind these are $1200-$1700 rifles depending on condition and throwing a MI quadrail and an AR stock on one only lowers the value in my mind, these are not non restricted AR's and trying to make them look like one only makes them heavy and ugly.
Bone stock with the iron sights is perfect. Accurate enough for 300 yards and no need to make them heavy with optics other than for load testing to find ammo it likes then back to the irons.
I don't recommend an AR180 to someone as an only rifle though, with no parts support it's not a rifle I'd be putting thousands of rounds through. Mine has 1000ish through it and has been getting smoother and smoother as it breaks in but for my high volume shooting I use my ACR or an AR so if needed I can buy parts. My 180 gets played with a few times a year and then put away again. Hopefully some day someone clones it and parts become more readily available.
 
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My Hk USC 45 cal is polymer and worth easy the 2K i paid for design flaws are more important than material in some firearms... JP.
 
If anyone domestic company started making them with a stamped steel lower, I'd pay around $1500 for one.
Maybe a bit more. Not sure on the economic viability though.

I would never buy one with a polymer lower. Maybe for 500 bucks to throw into the 'cool stuff' pile
 
Maybe your problem is you want to trade a 5.56 to 7.62. Most people who want a 5.56 buy a 5.56 and same with 7.62. It's like you complaining about sub guns (wimpy caliber, inaccurate, very little kick), it is the same for the 7.62 shooter with your 5.56.
 
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