Mine too, kinda why i want to line it with a diff caliber
Belgian Bulldog update and "Where to find .450 Adams Revolver ammo??"
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I went with a 41 LC HB pure lead pill. Squashed it in a vice til the diameter hit .425 ( from the original .385" diameter), seated it inside the 44 Russian case and ran it into a 303 Br die( IIRC). Lil something I saw reading on 43 Italian cartridge boards.
Strangely, those 43 Italians are very similar to 442 Webley rounds. More taper to the case or something
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Awesome, im not that able, at least not yet, sounds cool for sure.
From what I saw, you can run a .455 lead bullet through a .440 bore, no problem.
Well, you can run a .429 bullet through a .405 bore...so yeah.
So spooky for sure ... but doable.
Wear the welding helmet and gloves though...PPE
Hey, I don't recommend it. You'd be surprised what people shoot out of those old lads.
Picked up a shiny F & W British Bulldog with a broken hammer for 150 $ about 15 years back.
Never did find a hammer for it. But I did find a fellow who had the exact same F & W, he also saw that these units fit 44 Russian like a charm. So he lit up a factory round in his, tweaked the frame. Didn't like Hard cast at all.
So I bought the same gun off of him for 150 and used the hammer.
Still a very cool piece, just not something one goes out and runs a box of ammo through on a Sunday Afternoon.
Reload - its cheaper, I have 2 more modern 455s from 1916 and one antique DA swing out cylinder 450 from 1876 - it shoots 455 Mk II reloads: I load up fairly light loads + its soft lead, and it still looks and runs in newer condition.
Lee dies are obtainable, Jethunter sells lead, once you have some brass get to it. Just have it checked out for timing + lockup etc first.
Wobbly Webleys are that - you probably wouldn't believe what some people shoot at the range ...
PM - happy to assist you, fun fun fun
Lee dies are obtainable, Jethunter sells lead, once you have some brass get to it. Just have it checked out for timing + lockup etc first.
Wobbly Webleys are that - you probably wouldn't believe what some people shoot at the range ...
PM - happy to assist you, fun fun fun
Might find some in this auction.
https://www.icollector.com/December-2nd-7th_as103650
https://www.icollector.com/December-2nd-7th_as103650
Beautiful gun. Let me know if you ever want to sell it
Many of those still look excellent. Sold one a couple years ago for 1.8K.
After doing more reading, I'm pretty sure my Bulldog started out as something like this one that's currently on the EE (mine looks exactly the same) in .44 Russian or .442 Webley, but then someone reamed the chambers for .455. If they had just left it alone, that would have been awesome.
Getting .450 ammo, which is the reason this thread started, ain't gonna do me any good!
Did you measure your bore and throat diameters? - dan
I don't have the tools to do it, but I had a gunsmith look it over years ago and he told me the chambers were reamed for .455, but the barrel had not been, and it was around (I can't recall off the top of my head) .43, .44, somewhere in there if I remember correctly. In his opinion it wasn't safe to fire 'as is'.
I may put it back together and try running some .450 rounds through it, if I source any. While I have it mounted in a vise. While I'm standing behind a tree. While I'm pulling the trigger with a coathanger from behind said tree.
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Before you do that, just order a digital caliber on amazon, $10.
Push a soft cast bullet through the bore, and measure that. Same with the throats. And as scianna mentioned, if you don't already have one, a caliper will help that process. That will give you the knowledge you require to start making ammo for it. Check the cylinders with 455, 44 Russian/Special, and 45 Schofield. Pay close attention to rim thickness, the originals had thin rims and that may have to be adjusted. If the bore is 430 as you think, cast 44 bullets that haven't been sized should fit well. Then you just need to neck whatever brass fits best to the bullet. It's a finicky process, but once you have the variables figured out making the ammo will be slow but not difficult. - dan
Caliper on the way from Amazon
Boolitcaster
CGN Regular
- Location
- Vancouver Island
I fired a bulldog purchased off of this site. Imagine my surprise when I discovered that someone had matched a 44 barrel and frame to a 450 Adam’s cylinder. It was sent back to the seller and the money was refunded.
Fortunately, I did not lose any body parts.
Fortunately, I did not lose any body parts.
That may be exactly what I have! Could be the same gun...
Boolitcaster
CGN Regular
- Location
- Vancouver Island
Does it have a matte parkerized finish?
