Bench shooting/rests~what are you guys using? (Caldwell Rock?)

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Hey guys~this is one area where I THINK I'm set-up the way I need to be (heavy bags) but from time to time, I wonder if I should use a better rest if I'm zeroing scopes...load testing, etc. What are you guys using? I know things like the Caldwell "Rock" are available everywhere, but I'm curious if anyone has an opinion on them...or an alternate..? I'm OK with new or used (not fishing, meaning...if there is a discontinued/older thing I should be looking for) please post below. Photos are welcome!

This is one of my 22s propped up on my front bag, I have 2 rear bags. One is a squeeze bag I actually hunt with made by TAB, the other, made by the same guys DGG out of the US.

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I use the Caldwell Rock plus Caldwell rear bag. I have 3 Caldwell front bag sizes, narrow for sporter rifles, medium for the wider stocks of my 64 MSR, and Boyd's Pro Varmint on my CZ custom, also have the wide but no rifles that fit it so it doesn't get used. You've seen the results obtainable off of it, unless you plan on touring the National pro-bench rest circuit, you don't "need" anything more than the Rock. No point in paying $1000+ for a top-tier rest that might help you shave 0.1" off your group average if you're not competing or otherwise have deep pockets and a compulsion to possess the very best equipment for casual shooting.

I will say that it's probably not the best rest if you want to shoot with a "free-recoil" technique, at least, not without modifying it for a different top rest. Just hold the rifle steady on the Rock, and break the trigger clean. Results will be highly representative of the mechanical accuracy of the rifle/ammo combination in the wind conditions of the day, with minimal (indiscernible) contribution to dispersion by the shooter. You should be able to easily call your shots, you know it in your gut when they don't feel good.

Older pic, but shows you the setup. Followed by a recent, non-cherry picked target that didn't make the grade for a 1/4" attempt, showing that ammo lot is a critical factor when chasing those groups down to absolute precision.



 
I use mostly the Caldwell Rock BR and like it a lot. Very stable. My rear ag is a Protektor.

Gilbert
 
I'm sticking to a Harris Bi-pod and a rear bag.

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Can't wait to switch to the CCI SV I just picked up from Tenda, groups are pretty much the same if not better at a fraction of the price.

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For sporter-style rifles, the minimum of course is a few sandbags up front with the butt of the rifle atop the thumb/forefinger of a clenched fist. My range has many such sandbags. Oldtimers say that's all that's required. That was the go-to set up before shooters sought to up their game. Bags that conformed somewhat to the rifle forestock became the minimum, and a rear bag of some kind could be useful. Such set ups are still popular for their economy and usefulness.



Many shooters are satisfied with such gear and that's fine. People should do what they feel good about, not what someone on the internet forums says is good.

Nevertheless, many shooters have a competitive streak and seek to improve their results. A firmer, more solid front rest seemed in order. These could be self-fabricated, and simple in function. My range has a few crude-looking homemade devices that pale in comparison to the one below.



Wanting more as many enthusiasts often do, shooters demanded front bags that conformed to their rifle's shape. Something that could easily adjust for elevation. Something that was easily moveable.

Some can be homemade.



There are many commercially available models. One of the most ubiquitous in Canada is shown below, the Caldwell "The Rock Deluxe." I still have one. They are quite functional, easily adjust for elevation, accept a wide variety of front bags to accommodate different size rifle forestocks. And they are affordable.



Similar and even more affordable front rests are available. While they do what "The Rock" does, they have a lot of plastic, and they lack the durability and steadiness provided by the heavier front rests.



Rests that adjust for elevation are available in one-piece configurations, many of them widely available in Canada.



While adjusting for elevation is very helpful, that is not the full range of adjusting that may be desirable for many shooters. Adjusting for windage can add a useful dimension to a front rest because neither the front rest nor the rear bag have to be moved (or moved significantly) when shooting at from one bullseye to another.

Here's one such windage adjusting front rest that is readily available in Canada. It's the Caldwell Rock BR Competition, and it takes a variety of front bags and can be set up to accommodate up to 3" wide forestocks, which are common on bench rifles. Not only that, it doesn't cost an arm an a leg, currently selling for about $240.



Having the basics of a front bag to fit the rifle and elevation and windage adjustability covered, beyond that are the trimmings and bells and whistles.

A major factor for Canadian shooters is availability. The most readily available are the Caldwells. Others are harder to get or just plain expensive.

Consider these fully adjustable one-piece beauties, which are not easy to locate in Canada.






And there are many custom-made front rests for those with custom-made rifles with custom barrels and the "best" of everything available.





To be sure, most shooters using this kind of equipment is unlikely to be perusing CGN looking for ideas or tips.

There are some less exotic and much less expensive upgrades to what is commonly available in Canada. One of the best is the Greenlaw adjustable bag windage tops. These are available with Greenlaw bases, but they are easily adapted for use with the Caldwell BR base.



What's notable about the Greenlaw top is that not only is it windage adjustable (moves left-right), but the front bag itself is adjustable to accommodate any rifle forestock, whether it's a slim Schnabel style or 3" wide BR forestock.




The Greenlaw has sides that are adjustable as well.



I use a Greenlaw top on a Caldwell base and a Bald Eagle front rest. I was lucky to find the Bald Eagle a few years ago on the EE. If they were more easily available I think more shooters would be using them because they are solid, they accept a wide variety of front bags, and they are windage adjustable.



I'll conclude by noting that no one piece of equipment will make or break a shooter if he is using a quality rifle, a suitable scope, and good ammo. A front bag that fits your rifle is good. Elevation adjustment is good. Windage adjustment is good. And for so many shooters, this one included, affordability is paramount. Last year I thought about spending a good chunk of money on a new rest. I decided that an upgrade for the Greenlaw top was more reasonable for me. Buying more ammo with which to practice is in the end even more reasonable and important.
 
There is a reason the tightest shooting community (bench-rest folks) use Sinclairs, SEBs, Farleys, etc.

Certainly not needed for more casual accuracy shooting.


That said, I find much pleasure in using a high-end rest, particularly one with a joystick control.
 
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I recently acquired a Caldwell Rock BR. I had a Rock, it wasn't very sturdy or steady I found. The BR is a worthy upgrade. I use a very light weight squeeze type bag for the rear that I got from Wiebad, a company in the States that makes them. Works most excellent.
 
I use this, don't remember what make it is... Hoppes? Rear bag is Caldwell. Works good enough for me.
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Im using a Cowan rest that is made by students at a tech school in the US. Would like to test out a SEB mini before i think about buying one.
 
Wow...not THIS has been an education. Thanks guys, lots to chew on....and clearly, I need to start checking under couch cushions for some spare change! :)

Thanks again.
 
Have the Caldwell Rock and would buy again. My only complaint is that the included rear bag is too short for my gear and club ranges. Our target stands start low to the ground and get taller as range increases so I always have to prop up the bag with something from my backpack. The included front bag (medium) is excellent; it fits most varmint stocks nicely and I've "shimmed to suit" sporter rifle stocks.
 
They have this thing on Amazon...I imagine it would work ok, might need a little "tweaking", but for $144 might be worth a try?
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Hey guys~this is one area where I THINK I'm set-up the way I need to be (heavy bags) but from time to time, I wonder if I should use a better rest if I'm zeroing scopes...load testing, etc. What are you guys using? I know things like the Caldwell "Rock" are available everywhere, but I'm curious if anyone has an opinion on them...or an alternate..? I'm OK with new or used (not fishing, meaning...if there is a discontinued/older thing I should be looking for) please post below. Photos are welcome!

This is one of my 22s propped up on my front bag, I have 2 rear bags. One is a squeeze bag I actually hunt with made by TAB, the other, made by the same guys DGG out of the US.

vy9ycvD.jpg

I would like to have the building plans of your shooting table...... :)
 
I would like to have the building plans of your shooting table...... :)

They're in my head mostly~I made it up as I went along. lol The removable legs are another story~they're programmed in the CNC machine. I've been asked about this table/bench allot...and I've considered making them to sell. Still considering..lol
 
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