Benelli M4 problem.

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So I was at the skeet range today and was shooting fine with my first box of ammo. When I went to my second box I noticed I was having a hard time hitting stuff. Inspecting my m4 I noticed my rear sight was loose (not the ghost ring thats adjusted by the 2 screws but the whole assembly)

Has this happened to anyone before? Is it an easy fix? The 2 bolts that hold it in place are perfectly round so I don't even know how I would tighten it.

I've put less than 150 rounds of trap through this gun so its a bit of a piss off now :(
 
CFMopar said:
So I was at the skeet range today and was shooting fine with my first box of ammo. When I went to my second box I noticed I was having a hard time hitting stuff. Inspecting my m4 I noticed my rear sight was loose (not the ghost ring thats adjusted by the 2 screws but the whole assembly)

Has this happened to anyone before? Is it an easy fix? The 2 bolts that hold it in place are perfectly round so I don't even know how I would tighten it.

I've put less than 150 rounds of trap through this gun so its a bit of a piss off now :(
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Fixed... The screws are accessed under the reciever.. Have to take the trigger group out.. Loctited
 
R005t3r said:
I prefer the M2 with the Inertia system:stirthepot2:
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For hose that have been able to try both systems, would inertia be preferable?
Is the recoil reduction as much as they claim? On the fence ATM as to first shotgun purchase.

BTW to the OP how do you find using the M4 for skeet and such?

thanks
 
emidyl said:
For hose that have been able to try both systems, would inertia be preferable?
Is the recoil reduction as much as they claim? On the fence ATM as to first shotgun purchase.

BTW to the OP how do you find using the M4 for skeet and such?

thanks
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for recreational shooting and hunting in Canada they are both great guns. If you are in remote areas where reliability is the difference between life and death, then the M2 wins hands down. It can handle much harsher conditions with many less failures.

For range shooting the M4 is a great shotgun, excellent in fact.

Not sure if FN SLP's are available, not a bad alternative.

You will not be disappointed with either the M2 and M4 and both are likely the right choice for you.
 
M2 or M4 is a tough call

I went with the M2 but I must say the shell latch is better on the M4 and the bolt catch on my M2 had to be shimmed to work 100%. Plus I had to mod. the bolt to allow floating a round on my M2. Both guns only allow 4rds of 3" and 5 of 2 3/4"in the mag "wish it was 5rds of 3" :(

I do perfer the M2 as it is simpler and lighter then the M4 but I wish benelli paid more attention to detail on the M2
 
emidyl said:
For hose that have been able to try both systems, would inertia be preferable?
Is the recoil reduction as much as they claim? On the fence ATM as to first shotgun purchase.

BTW to the OP how do you find using the M4 for skeet and such?

thanks
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The recoil reduction on the M4 is very noticable.

The best way I can describe it, is 2-3/4" Buckshot feels like birdshot/target loads out of a pump gun, and 3" magnums out of the M4 feel like 2-3/4" out of a pump action.

I've left it completely uncleaned and dirty and it's never missed a beat, it had one FTE with some low quality buckshot ammo I was burning through it when it was brand new, and since then not a single malfunction since. Ghost loading, magnum slugs, low brass target loads, bump firing. Its been commonly discussed that the M4 needs a short break-in period of a 1-200 rounds to get the gas pistons into full swing, then its just gravy.



Not sure how the M2 wins "hands down" for reliability (the Inertia is one of the best and simplest methods for a semi, which is why benelli/beretta use it so much, but its very sensitive to weight and low powered ammo), its a great shotgun (and usually comes in a little cheaper than the M4) but if you actually ever plan on shooting lots (not just hunting) then you'll want the ability to use the low brass stuff, and the M4 works MUCH better than the M2 with the inertia driven system.
 
dizzy said:
If you are in remote areas where reliability is the difference between life and death, then the M2 wins hands down. It can handle much harsher conditions with many less failures.
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Do you have an information source? Just curious...it's always worthwhile to check sources of ANYTHING on the internet. :)
 
emidyl said:
For hose that have been able to try both systems, would inertia be preferable?
Is the recoil reduction as much as they claim? On the fence ATM as to first shotgun purchase.

BTW to the OP how do you find using the M4 for skeet and such?

thanks
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To me the M2 points and balances like a shotgun should, one of the best handling magazine shotguns out there IMO, while the M4 feels like a .73 caliber tube mag fed AR, with its front heavy weight balance.

OTOH, the fit and finish on the M4 are much nicer, and it cuts a much more distinct profile, while it doesn't shoot all that soft for a gas shotgun it still has a big advantage over pumps and inertial guns like the M2 in that departments. The M2 doesn't seem to kick all that much less than a pump in any configuration.

Ghost rings on either gun are going to be a hinderance on dynamic targets for most people, here the M2 wins because it also gives you the option of rifle and beads sights.
 
So, where would you autoloader guys place the 930 and 11-87 in the grand scheme of things? I've never so much as fired an auto shotgun but I don't even know where to start with all the differing opinions. It's really kind of silly actually. Is there a good source of info comparing them all?
 
wanted to thank everyone for their honest and frank opinions of the M4. Was looking at it last Friday at Al Flahertys and have been seriously considering it. The look and build quality really caught my eye. Would love to see the fellow members faces at the weekend trap shoot pulling out the M4.
 
J.P. said:
So, where would you autoloader guys place the 930 and 11-87 in the grand scheme of things? I've never so much as fired an auto shotgun but I don't even know where to start with all the differing opinions. It's really kind of silly actually. Is there a good source of info comparing them all?
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The 1100 and 11-87 are probably the softest shooting guns of their type out there, unfortunately they're also heavy, handle like a crowbar, need a lot of TLC and are noticable slower to cycle than any other recent production semi.

The 930 is a nice gun that's let down only a too long stock and slick, cheap feeling plastic furniture. It's probably the best thing going unless you want to spend at least twice the money.
 
I like the m4. I figure if it reliable enough for the marines its got to be plenty reliable. As for skeet shooting it was good. A little heavy but the rail set up I have on it is probably the cause.
 
CFMopar said:
I like the m4. I figure if it reliable enough for the marines its got to be plenty reliable. As for skeet shooting it was good. A little heavy but the rail set up I have on it is probably the cause.
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Skeet shooting Jesus "I hope thats not what you bought it for"

Its like bringing a APC to the indy 500 :p
 
CFMopar said:
I like the m4. I figure if it reliable enough for the marines its got to be plenty reliable. As for skeet shooting it was good. A little heavy but the rail set up I have on it is probably the cause.
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they also choose to keep using AR rifles, so I don't personally think reliability is major concern to them :stirthepot2: j/k

I don't know what to make of choosing an autoloading shotgun. I can't even make an educated choice between inertia and gas. Might have to start the buy and flip process again to try them all.
 
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