Benelli M4 Trigger Group
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F22_RaptoR
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That's a very odd one to find, I wasn't aware the m4s90 could have a plastic one.
I think your only option is to get it from brownells, they have a schematic with all the m4s90 parts listed although it'll be a little pricey I'd assume...
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Just took a look at Brownells:
Brownells catalogue code: 301-000-559WB
Benelli MFG part#: 70003
it's 205 bucks US, so you can export it by signing an end user agreement with Brownells, many people have done it in the past so not a big deal. They are listing it as in-stock.
I very seriously doubt you'll find a spare one sitting around, getting benelli OEM parts is extremely hard without ordering them in anyways... Even the OEM handguards are never in stock, I had to get them through Brownells.
I think your only option is to get it from brownells, they have a schematic with all the m4s90 parts listed although it'll be a little pricey I'd assume...
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Just took a look at Brownells:
Brownells catalogue code: 301-000-559WB
Benelli MFG part#: 70003
it's 205 bucks US, so you can export it by signing an end user agreement with Brownells, many people have done it in the past so not a big deal. They are listing it as in-stock.
I very seriously doubt you'll find a spare one sitting around, getting benelli OEM parts is extremely hard without ordering them in anyways... Even the OEM handguards are never in stock, I had to get them through Brownells.
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I ordered a field stock and other items direct from stoeger canada. but they informed me that all there new stock is polymer once they run out of the aluminum ones they began using the polymer. Cant believe even a quality gun with polymer parts. I cant stand it looks cheap
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Yeah I'm really disappointed, just read they started with plastic ones around 2015 and I guess all the new ones are plastic now?
I'd even email brownells if you decide to order from there and double check, but I can't see how a plastic trigger guard is 200 bucks US :x
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Those look pretty good, and around the same price as the OEM for nice billet machined.
With that said, I've never seen them before and it's hard to say if they're even registered for export.
I checked out their website and there is an option to ship to Canada, shipping is around 30 bucks which is on par for international shipping...
Maybe shoot them an Email and see OP?
Already did email A&S i may go that route. shipping to canada i was told by them does not fall under itar rules. They said " We have the commodity jurisdiction ruling on our trigger guards. they are EAR, not ITAR. shipping to canada is legal We have shipped many to Canada with zero issues"
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Yep, exactly as shotguns they should be under dept. of commerce not DOS.
I may actually look into getting one of those in the future after another few projects, that's a really slick setup especially if you load 2 shells at a time!
That`s what i Thought too. Machined Aluminum and Anodized as well. That shell ramp is pretty cool. They said i could just swap out my internals from a polymer trigger assembly. Brownells is $395 i believe for the complete OEM trigger assembly. that`s crazy plus Exchange & duties if any.
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Some of the bigger US companies are ITAR registered for export, and can fill out the US dept. of state paperwork themselves, brownells had been doing this for years even before IRG showed up, but you usually paid for a single item being exported whereas IRG consolidated shipped items.
The limit is something like 500 bucks now, but over 100 dollars you still need to fill out an end-user agreement stating you won't export it after you receive it. There are some items that need the full paperwork no matte the cost, but something like a trigger housing or scope mount isn't a controlled item so they can be exported even if just with an end-user agreement.
Shotguns are controlled by the US dept. of commerce and are much easier to export; which is why most of those little shotgun parts companies will ship stuff up here with little or no issue.
But if you need a part from Brownells they have an entire export department you can talk with about getting certain things up here. IRG makes importing a lot easier if you're patient, but brownells has so many little things it's hard to look past them.
Interesting. I gave up on Brownells some years ago when they decided that about 10 attempted purchases of mine in a row were not shippable to Canada, or to a Canadian with a US mailing address either- this was things like screws and ejector latches as well as red dot sights and such. Maybe their policy has changed or maybe it was because I had to phone in person when I made an order in order to use a discount status I have there and always seemed to get nervous or incompetent old lady types. But sometimes they would take the order and then it wouldn't be shipped without telling me so... no, in fact I think I'll continue to stay away from them.
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I've been ordering stuff from them for 10 years without issue; the big problem is whether a manufacturer is actually registered for export or not.
Brownells will ship anything IF the company is registered for export; one time they had to cancel a line off my order for a Williams Gunsight front post because their export status had lapsed. The export department actually put me through to the customer help line to find a similar front sight to swap out and they shipped it out that day.
Brownells now has a full listing of all parts if they are exportable or not (it will say "US Only: No Export" or something like that) which makes it much easier. As well anything manufactured by Brownells like tools and fasteners are registered for export; as many fastener companies don't bother to apply for ITAR export licensing. It seems silly but even screws and springs designed for a gun are required to be ITAR licensed and need to be properly 'exported'.... Optics are a different story altogether and require an export certificate so they usually send that stuff out and require it to be faxed back to them. But some things aren't exportable due to trade agreements like Leupold Optics has a Canadian distributor so they can't ship any Leupold scopes (bases and accessories are fine) to Canada as Korth Group is the importer here.
I can see if you had some issues it would give you a poor view of them, i certainly have not had any issues like that dealing with brownells, and have easily ordered a few thousand dollars worth of stuff over the years!
I wouldn't be in a rush to change from the Benelli polymer to aluminum. I have both, and IMO the polymer is in no way inferior to the aluminum. I dare say, if one took a hammer to the the trigger guards, the poly would stand up longer than the aluminum. This is Benelli we are talking about, there was a reason they changed from aluminum to poly, and it wasn't to save money.
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Like the aperture itself or the entire winged base?
The aperture itself has a teeny bit of play because it's spring loaded so I wouldn't worry about that. The spring will keep it in the right position. (Both the elevation adjustment and windage adjustment have a bit of play but they return to zero with the spring tension) If the base itself is moving then you'll want to check to see if the screws inside the receiver are tight (they are literally riveted from the top once torqued down at the factory so I doubt they would be loose)
They want it to be able to freely move even if the shotgun is dirty so there's a bit of clearance between the moving parts in the sight.
The aperture itself has a teeny bit of play because it's spring loaded so I wouldn't worry about that. The spring will keep it in the right position. (Both the elevation adjustment and windage adjustment have a bit of play but they return to zero with the spring tension) If the base itself is moving then you'll want to check to see if the screws inside the receiver are tight (they are literally riveted from the top once torqued down at the factory so I doubt they would be loose)
They want it to be able to freely move even if the shotgun is dirty so there's a bit of clearance between the moving parts in the sight.
F22_RaptoR
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Yeah no worries about that, I've seen and read about guys putting slugs into 6" gongs at like 180 yards or so, so it's pretty damn accurate for a shotgun!
