Benelli MR1 M.O.A. realistic expectations
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Hi caramel, I have a benelli MR1 and have been trying for years now to get sub MOA. I've tried everything from 53gr to 77 grains. VMax, Noslers, noslers varmigedons, all sorts of powders and primers. Could really use your help as you are having great accuracy! Is that at 100yrds and how many shots?
What is your recipe if you don't mind sharing.
Thank you for your time.
What is your recipe if you don't mind sharing.
Thank you for your time.
Be realistic and expect around 2-2.5 MOA.
Never believe any of these target posted here on CGN. Some random target is really meaningless, get a 5 5 shot group verified by a second party, then you get an idea of true accuracy.
Never believe any of these target posted here on CGN. Some random target is really meaningless, get a 5 5 shot group verified by a second party, then you get an idea of true accuracy.
Hey Guys, Sub Moa Accuracy is achievable with this firearm. There is an online shooting magazine article with accuracy testing of this firearm. they have achieved 0.87 MOA with factory ammo. I reload, so I am trying to get some reloading info so if you have any I would appreciate it.
My Binelli MR1 has gone through more than 200 rounds of Hornady 55gr Steel Match ammo and I regularly produce 1/2" by 1/2" centre to centre group at 50 yards indoor with a 3-15x44 Vortex tactical scope shooting from sandbags.
I've tried Federal 69gr Gold Match, Hornady 69gr Match and Nosler 55gr Ballistic Tip ammo but it seems prefer the Hornady 55gr Steel Match.
I might go shoot tomorrow and will post a couple of groups if I do.
By the way, I'll decide if I keep it and sell it depending on how well it shoots outdoor at 200 yards.
I own many Binelli guns and love them but I can't make up my mind about the MR1!
Alex
I've tried Federal 69gr Gold Match, Hornady 69gr Match and Nosler 55gr Ballistic Tip ammo but it seems prefer the Hornady 55gr Steel Match.
I might go shoot tomorrow and will post a couple of groups if I do.
By the way, I'll decide if I keep it and sell it depending on how well it shoots outdoor at 200 yards.
I own many Binelli guns and love them but I can't make up my mind about the MR1!
Alex
Depends on the bullets quality which determine how high the bullet stability factor can go!
With match bullets you can user really tight barrel twist 1-8 and still get great accuracy because they will allow for a much higher bullet stability factor (2.3) than non-match bullets (1.6). (These numbers are from memory)
This means that a Hornady 55gr match bullets might shoot very accurately from a 1-8 inch twist while much lower quality very inexpensive 55gr FMJ might not.
As a fact, I shoot the same ammunition from a 1-8 inch twist Tikka T3x and it's very accurate (easily shooting 0.75 MOA 5 shot groups).
With match bullets you can user really tight barrel twist 1-8 and still get great accuracy because they will allow for a much higher bullet stability factor (2.3) than non-match bullets (1.6). (These numbers are from memory)
This means that a Hornady 55gr match bullets might shoot very accurately from a 1-8 inch twist while much lower quality very inexpensive 55gr FMJ might not.
As a fact, I shoot the same ammunition from a 1-8 inch twist Tikka T3x and it's very accurate (easily shooting 0.75 MOA 5 shot groups).
Here are my 50 yards indoor test results:
I shot on test 10 shots group : 13/16" center to center extreme spread.
This comes to 1.12 MOA with - 13/16" * (100 yards / 50 yards) ) / 1.44 = 1.12 ( the 1.44 factor is a conversion factor to convert 10 shot extreme spread to expected MOA accuracy. )
Interestingly my Ruger SR22 rifle with CCI Green Tag ammo averages 9/16" 10 shot group at the same distance with the same scope ! (This means 0.80 MOA)
I'll do a similar test with 10 shot of Hornady TAP-FDP 60gr and Hornady Match 68gr or equivalent as soon as I find the ammo and time.
Alex
I shot on test 10 shots group : 13/16" center to center extreme spread.
This comes to 1.12 MOA with - 13/16" * (100 yards / 50 yards) ) / 1.44 = 1.12 ( the 1.44 factor is a conversion factor to convert 10 shot extreme spread to expected MOA accuracy. )
Interestingly my Ruger SR22 rifle with CCI Green Tag ammo averages 9/16" 10 shot group at the same distance with the same scope ! (This means 0.80 MOA)
I'll do a similar test with 10 shot of Hornady TAP-FDP 60gr and Hornady Match 68gr or equivalent as soon as I find the ammo and time.
Alex
That is a shame because I have a butload of 55 grain bullets.
I would like folks to keep in mind that there is a significant difference between a consistent sub MOA rifle, and a rifle that will turn in the odd sub MOA group. I could post photos of a few groups shot with a Benelli MR1 that would make you want to go out and buy one. I could also post a selection of AVERAGE groups fired from the same rifle and you might not be so excited about one.
Bang on there. Post a 5 shot group 5 times on the same outing and you get an idea. Posting one target means nothing.
The best way is the simply fire une large group and measure extreme spread.
It`s never done because it takes time and is expensive.
Taken from Sig SG 550 Wikipedia page :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_SG_550#Features
It`s never done because it takes time and is expensive.
Taken from Sig SG 550 Wikipedia page :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_SG_550#Features
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All you MR1 owners get much carbon fouling in the front handgaurd area? Mine gets a rediculous amount to where my forward hand gets a ghick black line at the gap after only a few shots.
No problems with 500+ rounds of Hornady Steel Match.
I had issue with super smoky IVI 5.56 FMJ in an XCR-L years ago : the rifle worked perfectly but the ammo really fouled up the gas system and the ammo was super smoky in a bolt action!
I had issue with super smoky IVI 5.56 FMJ in an XCR-L years ago : the rifle worked perfectly but the ammo really fouled up the gas system and the ammo was super smoky in a bolt action!
I took mine to the range to compare 3 different types of ammo and see what kinds of 5 round groups I could get. I was shooting with a front rest, with a fixed 3x optic. Conditions were excellent with bright sunlight and no wind. All groups were fired from 100 yards.
I shot a group with each brand, changing for new targets in between. From left to right they are: Barnaul steel case, IVI 55gr, and Hornady 72gr.
The IVI is what I normally shoot, and the MR1 likes it just fine. This was my first group of the day, and it printed well under MOA if you discount the one off to the right. It was probably me.
This was my 3rd grouping, shot with the barnaul stuff. It's another tight 4 within 3/4" and a loner down low. Shooter error? Likely, I didn't have high expectations for this ammo and I was very surprised.
The flyers might have been mitigated by a proper lead-sled, but this set up was what was available and suited my needs. You might be wondering: How did the 72gr Hornady rounds fare?
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Total bust. This was my 2nd group of the day, and I put every bit as much effort into this one as the others. Considering this ammo was $30 for 20 rds, I won't be firing this through anything else with a 1:9 twist rate. What a fail!
I fired a few more groups in rapid succession after the 3 you see above, and experienced shot stringing. Groups opened up to 3 or 4 inches when the barrel got too hot to touch. Whoever said the MR1 likes heavier rounds, my own experience suggests otherwise.
I shot a group with each brand, changing for new targets in between. From left to right they are: Barnaul steel case, IVI 55gr, and Hornady 72gr.
The IVI is what I normally shoot, and the MR1 likes it just fine. This was my first group of the day, and it printed well under MOA if you discount the one off to the right. It was probably me.
This was my 3rd grouping, shot with the barnaul stuff. It's another tight 4 within 3/4" and a loner down low. Shooter error? Likely, I didn't have high expectations for this ammo and I was very surprised.
The flyers might have been mitigated by a proper lead-sled, but this set up was what was available and suited my needs. You might be wondering: How did the 72gr Hornady rounds fare?
...
Total bust. This was my 2nd group of the day, and I put every bit as much effort into this one as the others. Considering this ammo was $30 for 20 rds, I won't be firing this through anything else with a 1:9 twist rate. What a fail!
I fired a few more groups in rapid succession after the 3 you see above, and experienced shot stringing. Groups opened up to 3 or 4 inches when the barrel got too hot to touch. Whoever said the MR1 likes heavier rounds, my own experience suggests otherwise.
