Benelli semi auto or other?

gagreflex said:
Trap , short for trap shooting - the sport of shooting at clay pigeons hurled into the air from a trap.

Auto Launcher - (Automatic Clay Pigeon Launcher, Also referred to as a "trap") - A device the throws clay pigeons into the air, used for the sporting purpose of trap shooting, skeet or sporting clays. It requires no mechanical resetting, that makes is automatic.

3" Steel Loads -3 inch long Shot-shells that are loaded with steel projectiles also known as "shot"

Range - (Gun Range) A place specifically designed for the discharge of firearms.

Hope that cleared it up for you. If you spend some more time on here and in the sport you will pick up the lingo in no time!!!:p
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Yeah Thanks for clearing that up for me. :rolleyes:
 
I have a SBE II and a Vinci, both 26" bbls.

The Vinci is lighter, but bulkier, longer and kicks less with light loads. (regular Vinci not Super Vinci)
The SBE II is a touch heavier but has a magazine extension, slimmer and shorter, and kicks less with big shells. Also shoots 3.5"

Most guys that try them both prefer the SBE II just for the feel of it.

I've tried them all, and I prefer the SBE II. You have to try them all though if you really want to know.
 
Win/64 said:
Why would anyone in there right mind shoot "Trap" from an auto launcher with 3" Steel loads? At a range?
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gagreflex said:
It's punishing if you shoot trap with 50 rounds of 3 inch high-velocity steel without taking a break. It's recommended break-in for this gun.
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Sometimes it helps to read the entire post before trying to start an argument. ;)
 
gagreflex said:
I've never really paid attention to it. I've never had to stop shooting due to the barrel heating up and I got a auto launcher that throws doubles. When I take it to the range it never gets put down, just a great handling gun. It's punishing if you shoot trap with 50 rounds of 3 inch high-velocity steel without taking a break. It's recommended break-in for this gun. It's cycles flawlessly and the way it breaks down is just amazing. My only real complaint is the case it comes with is kind of cheapish. Some people don't like the looks, I like the look of hardwoods, but I also like polymers, personal preference, but once you shoot it you won't care.
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Maybe... was he shooting the actual game Trap at a range? If so I know of no range that would let you shoot "Trap" with 3" shells. Or was he shooting with a portable thrower at a range? If so that is not Trap.
 
Win/64 said:
Maybe... was he shooting the actual game Trap at a range? If so I know of no range that would let you shoot "Trap" with 3" shells. Or was he shooting with a portable thrower at a range? If so that is not Trap.
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Why does it even matter? He was referring to recoil and barrel heating, not range rules. :confused:

Maybe you should change your name to "TrapRangeNazi" :D
 
bearkilr said:
Why does it even matter? He was referring to recoil and barrel heating, not range rules. :confused:

Maybe you should change your name to "TrapRangeNazi" :D
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Maybe you should learn the rules. Most ranges that shoot "Trap" have posted rules... No shells larger than 2 3/4"s no shot larger than 7 1/2 - 1 1/4 oz 3 dram equivalent.

"Maybe" before you resort to name calling you should know what you are talking about. Or is that the way you think you win arguments?
 
Win/64 said:
Maybe you should learn the rules. Most ranges that shoot "Trap" have posted rules... No shells larger than 2 3/4"s no shot larger than 7 1/2 - 1 1/4 oz 3 dram equivalent.

"Maybe" before you resort to name calling you should know what you are talking about. Or is that the way you think you win arguments?
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I've always used slugs, good practice for defense of flying killer bears. ;)

Have a great long weekend. :)
 
I found the Benelli is front heavy try a Browning Maxus Hunter. Its a newer gun but with only about 300 rounds through her, it been good.
 
Win/64 said:
Maybe you should learn the rules. Most ranges that shoot "Trap" have posted rules... No shells larger than 2 3/4"s no shot larger than 7 1/2 - 1 1/4 oz 3 dram equivalent.

"Maybe" before you resort to name calling you should know what you are talking about. Or is that the way you think you win arguments?
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"Most ranges" is the key words. If you have your own private range you can use whatever you want for shooting clays. I was commenting on the Vinci, I do not habitually use 3 inch shells for shooting clay targets. However as mentioned before, 3 inch shells are recommended break-in for this gun. If I am going to break it in, I'm gonna shoot something. If you want to argue about Rules for Shotgun ranges and trap, you may want to start a new thread.
 
Didn't know about break in ammo, both my Benelli's worked great with the cheap walmart ammo right from brand new. They shoot 1 oz 2 3/4 on up to the big stuff with no problems.
 
My friends SBE2 is the nicest shouldering gun that I have shouldered. His brothers Beretta Extreama 2 is really sweet too with the 24" barrel and invector choke. I love both their guns. That being said, I still think my 1969 auto 5, 3" mag (excellent + condition) is the nicest shotgun in the world!

Steve
 
Drillbit said:
Didn't know about break in ammo, both my Benelli's worked great with the cheap walmart ammo right from brand new. They shoot 1 oz 2 3/4 on up to the big stuff with no problems.
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The break-in is right in the manual. I'm sure mine would have been fine out of the box for the lighter loads. But I'm guessing they recommend the heavier loads as break-in just to get the inertia system worked in. Ive put around 500 rounds through it and it's been flawless. I don't know if the break-in made a difference, but for the price of a couple of boxes of 3 inch shells I figure why not? ;)
 
All inertia Benellis are recommended to uses no less than 1 1/8 oz shot loads. And all manuals recommend a heavier load for break in. Most will shoot lighter loads no problem and more so if the break-in was done properly. When I hunt, I never go below the 1 1/8 for my SBEII. Benellis are great guns, easy to clean and easy on the shoulder with the confortech stock. When you shoot 3.5" number 2 shot, she's a kicker, but so do all other makes.:cheers:
 
I'm also a fan of the inertial-action Benellis instead of the typical gas-operated guns. Sure, with the same loads in each gun the inertial guns may kick a bit more, but they are so much cleaner-shooting, and easier to clean when you do, that I'll never go back to a gas gun.

The SBE's and SBE-II's aren't cheap, but you can save quite a few bucks by going with a lightly-used one. Another option is the Franchi autoloaders. I just picked one up today and I am impressed. I put around 200 rounds through it (behind my barn...no range-rule bellyaching, please!) and it cycled everything from 3-inch turkey loads to buckshot to 2 3/4-inch trap-equivalent loads. It's slim and trim, lightweight, has a gel-type new-age recoil pad that makes it quite soft-shooting, and even comes with shims for minor changes in stock fit. It's a keeper. If you can live without 3 1/2-inch shells (and you can, believe me) these guns are well worth a look.

John
 
"Cleaner shooting"? Never heard of that term before. And I believe the Franchi semi-auto shotguns are gas guns. IMHO you can't beat a gas gun (read: Beretta) for all around clay sports and hunting use.
 
Shootshellz said:
"Cleaner shooting"? Never heard of that term before. And I believe the Franchi semi-auto shotguns are gas guns. IMHO you can't beat a gas gun (read: Beretta) for all around clay sports and hunting use.
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And it may or may not be the correct terminology.:)

All that I'm indicating by that is the fact that after a shooting session, an inertial gun is much cleaner than a gas gun, and requires a lot less upkeep.

Franchi may have made some models of gas-operated guns, but the current I12 guns are absolutely inertial driven. I've had a couple of gas guns in the past, one of which I bought specifically for my father's use as he got north of 70 (years), and I admit that they seemed to soften the blow of recoil a bit...or was it just a result of increased gun weight as the oily black crud built up in the gas system?:p It's hard to say exactly how much difference it made, since so many other factors such as gun weight and fit come into play. I think that the new gel-type and other sophisticated recoil pads probably do more to lessen the recoil than inertial- versus gas-operation.

I use my guns for hunting and the occasional fun afternoon of hand-thrown clays. Clean-up after shooting is much simpler and quicker with the inertia system. This makes a big difference after a long wet crappy day, when you want to clean and oil your gun quickly and get down to the serious business of warming up.

Maybe for an extended session of formal trap or skeet, the extra bit of recoil reduction is worthwhile. Personally, I don't think so, and I can't imagine any other advantage to a gas gun...but to each his own.

John
 
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