beo mags, yes beo mags, what's going on?
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To the guys saying to just use them and stop being a puss, how about you show us what a man you are and walk into the local RCMP with a couple Beo mags and tell them that you use these regularly and fill them to 14 or 15 rounds? Or use them at the range when the RCMP are there practicing? Hit this thing head on and prove to the rest of us pussies that we're wrong to put them away and not use them.
That's right, you're a puss as well and just like to talk tough on the internet.
To me, it's not worth the risk of losing my guns, job, and spending thousands of dollars in court trying to stay out of jail just to be able to stick 4 more rounds in a magazine.
I mention losing my job as well because it's pretty hard to keep your job when you're behind bars awaiting your court date. Firearms offences are not taken lightly and I am not willing to risk being drug through the courts at my expense.
Even if you were to win in court you will have spent thousands on a lawyer which you won't get back.
That's right, you're a puss as well and just like to talk tough on the internet.
To me, it's not worth the risk of losing my guns, job, and spending thousands of dollars in court trying to stay out of jail just to be able to stick 4 more rounds in a magazine.
I mention losing my job as well because it's pretty hard to keep your job when you're behind bars awaiting your court date. Firearms offences are not taken lightly and I am not willing to risk being drug through the courts at my expense.
Even if you were to win in court you will have spent thousands on a lawyer which you won't get back.
Having insurance does NOT mean you won't be drug through the same process as the poor smuck who doesn't have it.
Insurance "may" help with the costs of the process but your life will be disrupted just the same. Insurance isn't something that will let you live your life as if nothing bad is happening to you.
Having insurance doesn't guarantee that the process will be all rainbows and pots of gold.
Apparently you've never had to deal with insurance companies and court processes. You make it sound like a walk in the park.
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Not quite the same situation but very similar. Recently took a course in BC. Asked if there were any mag restrictions. Vague answer ( wink, wink) but the hint was shoot what you brung.
There were LE and RCMP there. In fact, one of the assistant instructors was RCMP. He had zero issues with the guys running Beus.
But this may be an individual gun savvy officer who personally decided the mag issue is a paper crime and not worth his time.
I’ve personally dumped my Beus and now run 10 rounders. Like you said, the consequences of the extra 4-5 rounds ain’t worth the risk right now.
This is the key right here. ^^^
Not all officers are brainwashed doucheknuckles but you never know what the officer who stops you is going to be like. You may get lucky and meet an officer who gives you a warning and let's you go after taking away your mags or you might meet an officer who hates civilian gun ownership and wants to make you miserable and drag you through the system for no other reason than he can.
To those who will undoubtedly reply to this saying that they can't confiscate your stuff unless they charge you, my reply would be quite offensive to you, I would call you an idiot and a fool. Have you ever been stopped with a gram of weed and been let go with a warning? They don't let you keep your contraband and you sure as hell would be a retard to pursue getting it back because you weren't charged with an offense. You say "thank you for the warning officer, have a nice day" then you leave and go buy some more. If you argue and act like an entitled idiot child you push him to lay charges instead of being a nice guy and letting you go with a warning.
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If you posted in any of these threads where the RCMP legal comments were mentioned or the carrier for the firearms legal insurance can prove you were on the page/forum where the info was listed you will not be covered as you can not say you had no idea.
Another good point even though saying you didn't know is not an excuse that will get you far in court.
Ignorance is no excuse for the law and it is your responsibility to know and understand the laws regarding your chosen activity.
They are still an officer of the law whether on duty or not and can easily call in a buddy who is on duty if they don't feel like dealing with it in their off duty time.
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Yup. This was a good point to add. Insurance companies ALWAYS look for a way out. If they find one (and believe me, they look for any excuse) you are on your own even though you paid for the insurance.
Insurance is often a false sense of security.
I see it more as educating to help fellow gun owners keep themselves out of the RCMP hot seat since it seems many are too lazy to actually read the bulletin or think that because it hasn't actually been passed into law yet that they can't get themselves in hot water.
Big picture, is it really worth the risk just to stick 4 more rounds in a magazine and do a mag dump? When the war starts, we find ourselves in a WROL world, or the zombies start walking my magazines will be filled to 28-29 and no one will care but until then I'll just follow the rules and enjoy my hobby.
Our magazine capacity laws are asinine and make nothing safer for anyone, I'm sure we all agree with that but the more we push the limits and look for loopholes the more they are forced to clamp down. If we want change we need to band together and fund a legal campaign to fight this stupidity.
The prohibited device charge was dropped in exchange for surrendering the Beo mags - so there is still no precedent established for "dual use" magazines.
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...-50-Beowulf-mags-all-done-All-Charges-Dropped
never said there was.
I do know they are still looking for them at roadside game checks this hunting season however.
This is likely a much smaller issue for people who own restricted beowulf rifles as you would not be targeted during hunting season and have next to no public exposure of the rifle.
So, I have read several posts stating to keep using them, but get firearm legal insurance. I've looked into this, and if you read the policy, they will have quite a few points covering things they will NOT pay to defend you for. Those things are mostly common sense, but will include something to the effect of "charges relating to restricted or prohibited firearm if the insured did not hold an appropriate licence on the date of the occurrence". I know it says firearm, but these are insurance companies, I'm willing to bet they'll extend that to magazines as well if they can use it to wiggle out of paying for your legal defense. I'm definitely not a lawyer, so I don't know. Just my opinion. But I'd at least keep that in mind if you're going in swinging and hoping to fall back on insurance ESPECIALLY if they can point back to internet postings where you say "#### it! lawyer up and keep using em!".
Boy, you've really got your dancing shoes on, don't you.
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