Beretta 92fs failing to eject

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Today we had my wifes brand new beretta 92fs at the range.

It would fail to eject the spent case 80% of the time on two brands of ammo (umc and pmc). We put about 250 down the pipe. The ejector seemed to work when i pulled the slide back hard. I think the guide rod spring is too stiff.

Does this make sense? If so, how do i fix it? Trim the spring (how much?) or buy a new one (how strong and where)?
 
Ar180shooter said:
Limp wrist maybe? Have you had someone else shoot it, and if so, have they had the same issues?
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X2, logical place to start. My Limited Custom only jams up when limp wristers shoot it, shoots flawless with me.

As you stated, it's a new pistol. Clean it, lube it up good and try again.

As Ar180shooter said, let someone who has a good grip and pistol experience shoot it and go from there. May solve the issue.

Keep us posted.
 
Both my wife and i shot it. Same problem.

I know limp wrist can be an issue. My buddys wife can't shoot his glock because of this.

I tried to compensate for this. I rested against the table and a post while firing, i even held my wrist with my other hand. Still not working.

No other shooter on the pistol range today, so i could not let anyone else give it a try.
 
rlummerding said:
Both my wife and i shot it. Same problem.

I know limp wrist can be an issue. My buddys wife can't shoot his glock because of this.

I tried to compensate for this. I rested against the table and a post while firing, i even held my wrist with my other hand. Still not working.
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Both hands should be on the gun.

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If you are sure your grip is correct, then I think you have a lube issue!
Lube the slide well and try again. If you just bought it brand new and did nothing to it, the rails may be dry.
80% failure is waaay too high!
I had a similar issue with my 92FS. I thought it was a mag issue, spring issue and ammo issue. I even switched all those parts with another shooter with the same gun and nothing worked until I lubed it. Shot everything after that.
I hadn't touched the 92 for 2 years when I shot it so it was bone dry!
 
^^beat me to it.....

Try lubing the gun liberally. Beretta's aren't that sensitive to limp wrisitng so I doubt that is the problem. They are more lube reliant than other designs (every 1000 rounds or so) and the extractors need to be cleaned periodically. Since it is new, I doubt it's an extractor issue, so my bet is lube.
 
I've never needed to lube my 92FS any more than any of my other handguns and runs like a champ.

OP, did you do a field strip, wipe off old factory grease/oils and relube when you got it?

If it's brand new and you've tried different ammo with the same problem then get it repaired under warranty.

Edit: Just reread the orig post. I've never liked that 115gr UMC ammo. They're underpowered and even some gun manufacturers don't recommend using it as it can cause cycling problems. I've never used the PMC stuff to comment on it. If you're going to shoot the UMC stuff and your pistol has cycling problems, you might need to fine tune it to that ammo ie a lighter recoil spring and possibly lighter mainspring. The only problem is when you start shooting hotter loads with a light recoil spring, you're going to beat up your pistol.

Next range session, buy some 124gr ammo and see if you get ejection issues. Then try your UMC and PMC stuff and see if the problem comes back. If the problem occurs with any brand of ammo, contact the store you purchased it from.
 
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When I first took my 92fs to the range to fire that first round through it....it wouldn't work right. I didn't lube it enough and it would fail to feed, eject, everything...I was definitely worried I'd bought a lemon as my first. However, I had a can of CLP and sprayed the #### out of it. Then proceeded to fire 450 rounds through it like butter on an asscrack...after that I didn't need to keep it too wet anymore. It's a very tight gun out of the box. Now runs fantastic.
ps, I don't think you can limp wrist a beretta. I've tried firing mine one-handed, two fingered, gangsta style...lol everything. No problemo
Have fun!
 
The 92fs I had came with a stout recoil spring. It would fail to lock back at the last round about half the time. The cure, which I never got around to doing, would have been to fit the next softer recoil spring.

But given the comments above about the UMC ammo I'd try some other brands first. Or if you got a deal on a case then get a softer recoil spring.

You COULD try clipping the present spring by a little. I'd suggest one turn to start and no more than two turns total. If it still isn't playing well then stop and buy the proper spring you need. But keep in mind that the spring is now tuned for the potentially weaker ammo and if you shoot other proper spec ammo that you may be battering the slide in the frame when it has too much energy at the rear of the travel. Best to try some other ammo first before you modify the gun itself.



If either of the two ammo types you used has aluminium or the finished steel casings then that might well be the culprit. I only ever bought one box of MFS ammo which had steel cases and copper washed steel jacketed bullets. Never again. Lots of jams with tight draws on the ejecting of spent cases. And there were even some sparks coming out the muzzle that I'd never seen before. Sparks that were similar to what I see from grinding metal. I didn't even finish using the box as a result. Now it's strictly brass cases and proper copper or soft brass jacketed bullets.
 
Trinimon said:
I've never needed to lube my 92FS any more than any of my other handguns and runs like a champ.

OP, did you do a field strip, wipe off old factory grease/oils and relube when you got it?
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I second this, when I got my 92 Elite 1A, I could barley run the action by hand due to the factory lube being so thick, I stripped it and scrubbed it with a tooth brush and spray can of action cleaner then lubed it with regular gun oil before reassembly.
 
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