Beretta 96 Vertec
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Laniru said:A vertec would probably suit me better, but I think the vertec makes for an ugly pistol...as I am not a high speed operator, nor do I play one on TV, IMHO, the aesthetic appeal of a gun is hand in hand with its ability, to me. YMMV.
I had to read that a couple of times before I could figure out what you meant...
I decided to try out the Vertec (seriously...how BAD could it be...), as a P226 is just too much of a handful for me. I absolutely detest a pistol that feels overly large and awkward to operate. The Vertec does indeed have a "1911" feel to it, and I have no doubt that was the inspiration behind the grip and the one micron movement of the trigger in SA mode. I don't find the Vertec ugly at all. It does have that rather "busy" look that Beretta's have as opposed to the 'clean' appearance of other pistols, but if you turn the lights down and REALLY squint your eyes, it does have the profile of a 1911.
No guns are ugly after 2am.
Hi Lugger,
Well it's a 40 S&W with stainless barrel and I got it from Dante sports for $750 as Hitzy pointed out... Thanks btw
It's iodized (spelling?) and fits my medium sized hands perfectly.
Here is what it looks like
I found a range report too but for the 9mm version
http://www.handgunsmag.com/featured_handguns/beretta_vertec/
Well it's a 40 S&W with stainless barrel and I got it from Dante sports for $750 as Hitzy pointed out... Thanks btw
It's iodized (spelling?) and fits my medium sized hands perfectly.
Here is what it looks like
I found a range report too but for the 9mm version
http://www.handgunsmag.com/featured_handguns/beretta_vertec/
$750 for a Vertec is a great deal for sure, is that their regular price btw?
I've shot a Vertec but in 9mm...I don't think the trigger is any different than on a 'regular' 92FS; it's pretty good but it could be a little lighter...
I've shot a Vertec but in 9mm...I don't think the trigger is any different than on a 'regular' 92FS; it's pretty good but it could be a little lighter...
Slavex said:
Slavex, pm sent your way
Forgot to add...does anyone know or have an idea how many Canadian LE agencies have decided to move to Beretta when they were carrying another brand? Just out of curiosity that is....If you know please chime in
Boltgun
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Six Star said:Police agencies don't necessarily carry the "best" brand of pistol...they carry the brand that gives them the best deal. Nobody can touch Glock for that...
Oh..edited to add: Vancouver PD carry Beretta's.
That's interesting since when pistols became the fad across the country and the most expensive was Sig and th echeapest was Glock. Funny how more and more agencies are moving to brands that last longer. Both Sig and Glock offer "minimum round count" warranties as per the FBI testing that was done.
ETA: Beretta makes a nice pistol period. My suggestion is that if you are going to do ALOT of shooting then go 9mm. If you are stuck on going 40 then have a maintenance plan to replace major springs every 4-5000 rds. If you are fortunate like Slavex and get a gun that runs and runs and runs then good on ya....but if you get major failures (broken locking blocks, cracked frames, cracked slides and barrel failures based on my experiences) after 10000, don't be surprised.
Boltgun
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Boltgun said:
More ass talking I see........
TSE run all kinds of guns on their range, 10's of thousands of rounds through SIG's without failure.......one of the toughest guns they run.
Reaper has a 226 with over 100,000 rounds through it, only thing that wore out was 1 mag........gun is still going strong.
Hitzy said:More ass talking I see........
TSE run all kinds of guns on their range, 10's of thousands of rounds through SIG's without failure.......one of the toughest guns they run.
Reaper has a 226 with over 100,000 rounds through it, only thing that wore out was 1 mag........gun is still going strong.
what part of that is ass talking? I am praising SIG here!!!!????
Boltgun
Hitzy said:Sorry, I guess I read it wrong.......I thought you were bashing glocks and sigs.......my bad
No no...I have to give any company credit that stands behind it's product and puts it's money where their mouth is. SIG and Glock have done that for LE agencies, Beretta didn't.
Boltgun
How can you exactly tell how many rounds the gun has had?
Is round count really an effective way to warranty a gun (for a manufacturer)? Btw before you said something about 10K warranty on the Beretta 96 frame, where did you see that? As far as I know (and I’m pretty sure) Beretta offers 3 year warranty regardless of the round count.
IM_Lugger said:How can you exactly tell how many rounds the gun has had?
Btw before you said something about 10K warranty on the Beretta 96 frame, where did you see that? As far as I know (and I’m pretty sure) Beretta offers 3 year warranty regardless of the round count.
Many LE agencies were concerned about round counts when switching to pistols (in Ontario atleast). All manufacturers are required to have a time frame on their warranty by US law. I would suggest that an agency choses to buy the pistol with the intent to last longer than the warranty that comes with the gun. Hence the usage (round count) becomes an issue sometimes.
A couple of years back FBI did a test to see how long pistols would last from a round count perspective (this is a reasonable indictator of the life span of the pistol - DND did the same with the SARP project in the 80's for the C7's to see how long the barrels and receivers would last with endurance firing). Anyways, SIG and Glock came out front.
As a result, they have a add on to their warranties (for LE agencies) that will stipulate a minimal round count independant of the length of time the pistol has been in service if the agency asks for it. You could easily "figure" out a rough amount of rounds down the barrel depending on when the gun came into service and the number of qualifications that are done (I am going to have to assume that they keep those kind of records).
Using that 3 years is the time that is given by the manufacturer. if you bought the pistol and used it sporadically (100-200-1000 rds) and then bring it to the range one day and something fails (assuming after the 3 year period) then technically the pistol is no longer under warranty. This is with all brands (depending on their time frame for warranty). Any maker worth their name should help you out there, PERIOD. for the average guy wanting to shoot that is fine. They will LIKELY take care of you anyways. But wouldn't you want the maker that stands behind their product and says independant testing has shown our gun will last X'number of rounds and we will stand behind it regardless of warranty time? I would.
That said, ALL gun manufacturers have problem guns! no one makes a perfect gun, they are machines after all which are prone to wearing out. But I would want the one that has proven to last the longest across the board.
Boltgun
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Well Taurus offers lifetime warranty….
I agree it would be nice to know that whatever you do to the gun the manufacturer will take care if it, but I don’t think any gun maker warranties the gun depending on the round count, since there is no way you can tell for sure, it's easier to do with a car than a gun Sure some give estimates and Berettas does that too, in fact Beretta is the only one that lists info on their website about how long some of the different parts of the gun may last, I'm yet to see anyone else do that….
I agree it would be nice to know that whatever you do to the gun the manufacturer will take care if it, but I don’t think any gun maker warranties the gun depending on the round count, since there is no way you can tell for sure, it's easier to do with a car than a gun
Sure some give estimates and Berettas does that too, in fact Beretta is the only one that lists info on their website about how long some of the different parts of the gun may last, I'm yet to see anyone else do that….
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