Beretta 96 Vertec
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funny how Beretta out survived all other guns tested by the INS when they chose the 9mm Brigadier (yes not .40). Sig, HK, S&W, and Glock didn't come anywhere near the roundcount Beretta did in the mean failure tests.
The simple fact of the matter is this, proper maintenance and care of your firearm will make it last far longer than if you treat it like ####. No pistol is magical, and all the "well on my range X gun lasted longest and Y gun broke all the time" means jack f' all. As you can find a range that will report that Beretta, or Sig, or Glock, or S&W outlasts all other guns. It's almost like weather patterns determine which works best in certain places.
The simple fact of the matter is this, proper maintenance and care of your firearm will make it last far longer than if you treat it like ####. No pistol is magical, and all the "well on my range X gun lasted longest and Y gun broke all the time" means jack f' all. As you can find a range that will report that Beretta, or Sig, or Glock, or S&W outlasts all other guns. It's almost like weather patterns determine which works best in certain places.
how come on the Beretta website it says; "The Brigadier was designed to meet the special needs on the INS* who wanted an accurate, reliable and durable .40 caliber pistol with removable front and rear sights" did they chainged their mind? do you know why?
where did you get info on the roundcount from?
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IM_Lugger said:Well Taurus offers lifetime warranty….
I agree it would be nice to know that whatever you do to the gun the manufacturer will take care if it, but I don’t think any gun maker warranties the gun depending on the round count, since there is no way you can tell for sure, it's easier to do with a car than a gunSure some give estimates and Berettas does that too, in fact Beretta is the only one that lists info on their website about how long some of the different parts of the gun may last, I'm yet to see anyone else do that….
Taurus's lifetime warranty isn't worth the toilet paper it is written on when they have ZERO customer support and service. Their lack of customer service is legendary.
On the other end of it you have Ruger that has NO express warranty what-so-ever, but excellent customer support and service.
I don't know about you, but I'd rather deal with a company that offers no warranty but excellent service and a discounted rapid repair policy, than a company that will fix my pistol for free, but may take 2 years to get around to it........
cuz I am an idiot and totally forgot that the gun they chose was the .40 that's why. Here I was thinking about something else when I wrote it.
as for the mean round count, there is a document available online that shows the round count, but I can't remember where it is. It was also published in two seperate magazines, one was Guns and Ammo I believe.
as for the mean round count, there is a document available online that shows the round count, but I can't remember where it is. It was also published in two seperate magazines, one was Guns and Ammo I believe.
it's not 2 years, more like 6 month....but I can probably get the parts if I don't want to weight from elsevhere...
still lifetime warranty is lifetime warranty, if something brakes on the gun 15years from now I know that they will fix it...
Ok I took my Vertec to the range today. This baby loves 180gr more than 160gr. I was grouping better . My first impressions was that the trigger had to be adjusted since you had to press it all the way for the pistol to fire but after 25 rds I got the hang of it. The position of the pistol grip fit my hands like a glove but the grips themselves need to be changed either to Hogue or Pachmyr. My hands kept sliding lol. Last thing this baby kicks like a mule, more than my 1911 45ACP which surprised the bejesus out of me. After 100rds I'm embaressed to say my wrist was hurting me. The pistol functioned flawlessly like a well oiled machine. Future mods to include spring guide, extended mag release and adjustable sights.
. My first impressions was that the trigger had to be adjusted since you had to press it all the way for the pistol to fire but after 25 rds I got the hang of it. The position of the pistol grip fit my hands like a glove but the grips themselves need to be changed either to Hogue or Pachmyr. My hands kept sliding lol. Last thing this baby kicks like a mule, more than my 1911 45ACP which surprised the bejesus out of me. After 100rds I'm embaressed to say my wrist was hurting me. The pistol functioned flawlessly like a well oiled machine. Future mods to include spring guide, extended mag release and adjustable sights.Yes, I find my Vertec's grip to be quite slippery....Good luck finding replacement aftermarket grips, btw. The only ones I could find were custom-made wood grips that are smooth.
Go the skateboard tape route...it works and it's cheap.
(I've seen a couple of pictures of Vertec's with 'modified' 92FS Hogue grips...yeh, they work, but look like crap...even worse than SB tape).
The only ones I could find were custom-made wood grips that are smooth. Go the skateboard tape route...it works and it's cheap.
(I've seen a couple of pictures of Vertec's with 'modified' 92FS Hogue grips...yeh, they work, but look like crap...even worse than SB tape).
You actually can order Vertec grips directly from Hogue. They are not listed on the site, you have to call. Unfortunately because they are a 'custom' item the price is around $65US compared to $22 for regular 92f rubber grips. I have seen pics of Vertecs with modified 92f grips and if the job is done well they look fine (IMHO). One of the guys on Beretta Forum modifies them and the finished product looks like it came that way from the factory.
foggy said:
Ok...I contacted Hogue and told them that I wanted to replace the crappy, slippery factory grips with 'custom' Hogue grips. I received a reply telling me politely that the "crappy" factory grips are actually made and supplied by Hogue. Oh..
Hands up all those here who knew THAT. Anyhow, they will make up a set of fingergroove grips similar to the ones on the 'regular' 92FS, where they reprofile the inside, build up and sand down the back profile to fit the Vertec. They charge US$45 for them.
