Beretta shoots low... and to the right *UPDATE - suck less*

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I googled this and found that a few others have experienced this. I know they are combat sights and that one must "cover" the target. But even still, it shoots low. And I am using a 147 grain bullet, so that should bring it up a bit in itself.

I drifted the rear sight to the left a bit and she still shoots right... and no, it is not me. I shoot my other pistols just fine.

Anyone else had this issue with their 92FS? Did you get an adjustable rear sight for it? If so, which one?

Cheers
 
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Still alive said:
I had a FS. And a SBC. Both shot point of aim, center. With 115 and 124 gr ammo. Never tried 147 though. Usually at 3-10yds.
How low and how far right? Are you grouping? Also what distance?
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I have only had a chance to shoot steel, but the impacts in the sand are about 4 inches low and 4 inches right I'd say, at 25 yards.
 
ChromeArty said:
I have only had a chance to shoot steel, but the impacts in the sand are about 4 inches low and 4 inches right I'd say, at 25 yards.
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You need a target that's much more precise and under closely controlled conditions to determine whether it's you,your ammo or your pistol. I'll suggest firing from a rest or brace at 25M with different bullet weights. Carefully record each target. The difference should be evident in short order. Good luck.
 
100% your technique,


propper trigger squeeze, grip, and stance.
Not all pistols grip/hold the same, and different recoil impulse can lead to different results.


Has another experienced shooter fired your gun?
 
Trimmer 905 said:
You need a target that's much more precise and under closely controlled conditions to determine whether it's you,your ammo or your pistol. I'll suggest firing from a rest or brace at 25M with different bullet weights. Carefully record each target. The difference should be evident in short order. Good luck.
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I agree,

The powers to be at our range took the pistol range shipping container for another use. So all our targets and everythibg disapeared. We are kinda choked about it.

I will make a target stand and get back out there. I will be sure to report back.

But i can tell you, it isnt me. I am a wizz with the 5 inch PPQ. Beretta... not so much
 
Daver_II said:
100% your technique,


propper trigger squeeze, grip, and stance.
Not all pistols grip/hold the same, and different recoil impulse can lead to different results.


Has another experienced shooter fired your gun?
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Really!?

Seems so odd that my other pistols are dead on, but the Beretta is off... I will keep trying

Any tips?
 
ChromeArty said:
Really!?

Seems so odd that my other pistols are dead on, but the Beretta is off... I will keep trying

Any tips?
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If you were local to Ottawa, I would gladly try to help you out.

However, I would recommend having another experienced shooter fire it first without having told them your issue.
See what happens.
 
Daver_II said:
If you were local to Ottawa, I would gladly try to help you out.

However, I would recommend having another experienced shooter fire it first without having told them your issue.
See what happens.
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I appreciate that!

The second shooter is defineitly a good idea. I just don't know any other "experienced" shooter. Judging by the sign in book at the pistol range, I am this towns most avid pistol shooter by far :/
 
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You could try moving your finger a little bit further onto the trigger, (sorry the picture is for a righty)

that might help with your rounds hitting to the right.


The "low" could be another issue, or it could be related.


Again, this picture might need to be mirrored for a lat handed shooter:

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If you concentrate on the common issues from left to low in the diagram ... or in your case "right" for your rounds

you might be able to diagnose a bit better.

also, how does the gun fit you?
 
Daver_II said:
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You could try moving your finger a little bit further onto the trigger, (sorry the picture is for a righty)

that might help with your rounds hitting to the right.


The "low" could be another issue, or it could be related.


Again, this picture might need to be mirrored for a lat handed shooter:

http://2.bp.########.com/-Mf0oGa-vLhU/U---GkikNhI/AAAAAAAAAlw/9yjgM9B6COM/s1600/right_hand_error_target_jpeg-rv_a.jpg


If you concentrate on the common issues from left to low in the diagram ... or in your case "right" for your rounds

you might be able to diagnose a bit better.

also, how does the gun fit you?
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I am a righty :)

Yeah, my finger placement is of that in the first picture. I am pretty sure it is the gun, not me. I took a few shots from a rest, but couldn't see where i was hitting (need to shoot paper).

I use a medium backstrap on my PPQ and take a size large Atlas glove. So I don't have small hands, and find the Beretta grip to be comfortable.

Odd thing is I find other mentioning similiar experiences with their Berettas on US forums.

I will try and shoot some paper tomorrow. I will also do a side by side with another pistol to see if i jave developed some all encompassing 'down to the right flinch' :)
 
Hey ChromeArty,
Ok, 4" low and 4" right at 25m. So I assume you are able to group the shots.
With the thick front and non- adjustable rears, 25m may be a bit ambitious to try and sight in a combat grade pistol.

Can you shoot at 5 or 10 yds at your range?
If your shooting skills are up to par ( and you say they are), try 5 rds at a 2" circle at 5 yds. You should be able to put all 5 rds within 1". Don't chase the shot, aim all 5 rds at the exact same spot. See where they hit.
If all five hit the lower right part of the circle in a small group, then it's time to change the rear sights. If you are hitting center of mass at 5 yds, then it may be the technique at distance.
The Beretta trigger is heavier and SA whereas the Walter trigger is straight striker and light. It may make a difference when shooting at distance.
I find if one can't shoot tight groups at 3-5 yds, they certainly won't at 25+yds.
If you can, post some pics of your targets. Would be easier to give opinions then.
 
Still alive said:
Hey ChromeArty,
Ok, 4" low and 4" right at 25m. So I assume you are able to group the shots.
With the thick front and non- adjustable rears, 25m may be a bit ambitious to try and sight in a combat grade pistol.

Can you shoot at 5 or 10 yds at your range?
If your shooting skills are up to par ( and you say they are), try 5 rds at a 2" circle at 5 yds. You should be able to put all 5 rds within 1". Don't chase the shot, aim all 5 rds at the exact same spot. See where they hit.
If all five hit the lower right part of the circle in a small group, then it's time to change the rear sights. If you are hitting center of mass at 5 yds, then it may be the technique at distance.
The Beretta trigger is heavier and SA whereas the Walter trigger is straight striker and light. It may make a difference when shooting at distance.
I find if one can't shoot tight groups at 3-5 yds, they certainly won't at 25+yds.
If you can, post some pics of your targets. Would be easier to give opinions then.
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I am defineitly going to do this tomorrow!!

Thank you so much for taking the time to help me out.

And thank you Daver! I will be back here tomorrow with results.
 
You're welcome!
What may be helpful too is to do the same drill with the PPQ side by side with the FS. That will definitely confirm or deny your suspicions.
For a simple 2" target, go download the Dot Torture ones online.
You have 10 2" circles per sheet to see how it goes. Don't do the actual drill while testing your sights. You want to eliminate variables, not add to them!
Total round count will be 100, 50/ gun.
 
Where are you placing the front sight on the target? Is the front dot covering the bullseye or six o'clock hold?

Try to ensure to bring the gun up to your eye level and not to bring your head down to the gun.

Shoot closer and see if you are on target.
 
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