Beretta / Taurus 92 - cases flying in my face?

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I got a chance to put 50 rounds through a Taurus PT99 (which is basically a copy of a Beretta 92) this weekend. saw two weird things, one was stovepiping while chambering a round (got annoying, but it's probably partly my grip and partly the worn and loose magazine lips up top, and yes it would stovepipe a new unfired round during feeding - never stovepiped on extraction). the other was that about half of the rounds were being ejected right into my face instead of sideways. it was annoying cuz it made me flinch and/or turn my face away just as i pulled the trigger (eye protection aside, i don't enjoy having cases flying into my face).

is this typical of the design, or a flaw in the design / arrangement of the ejector? would a new Beretta 90-two do the same thing?

i like the open slide design cuz it makes it really easy to check the chamber and even to manually chamber a single round (kinda funny that i actually HAD to do that when i recovered the unfired "stovepipes"), but the extraction bugs me.
 
No, this is not "typical of the design"......

There is an issue with your specific pistol. The problem is most definitely NOT related to the design of your gun.

Paul
 
I think 2 things,

1) perhaps the extractor is bent or damaged...(unlikely on a newer gun)

2) (most likely) per haps your are limp wristing it. Hold the gun Firmer and try again.

:D
 
well, to clarify, the PT99 isn't my gun but rather owned by one of the local club guys, so i was just borrowing it to get a feel for what the Beretta 92 / 90-two would feel like.

the gun isn't new - it looks old and quite used, and the safety doesn't have the decocker (though i dunno when that was introduced on the PT99). didn't occur to me to look at the extractor, though. i had presumed it was the open slide since most other handguns have a covered slide with the ejection port to the side to at least kinda control which way the brass flies.

hmm, could be a bit of limp-wristing - which i'm guessing only got worse as i flinched because of brass flying into my face. evil circle, perhaps?
 
ok, so mag lips overused / enlarged could explain the stovepiping. and kinda makes sense since the top 1-2 rounds just barely stayed in the mag - they almost wanted to pop out on their own.

hopefully the ejection direction was the extractor being bent from so much use & abuse, cuz if the regular / new Beretta 90-two pistols do that as well then i'd be annoyed and want to throw the gun itself at the target.
 
This is a definite limp wristing scenario if you ask me. Just stove pipes, or just brass hitting you might suggest other things but if both ar happening at the same time it would suggest limp wristing. It is a common thing when a new shooter pics up my G17. Not so much brass in the face but stovepipes and week ejection. As soon as you start locking your wrists and start using that support hand better it changes everything.
 
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