Bergara B-14 R tips, tricks, mods, and photos

Johnny Boom

Johnny Boom

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Hi Guys,

I've been talking to a few fellow Bergara B-14 R owners and I'd like to start a thread to share some test results, tips, and photos. I would prefer this thread to stay focused on the B-14 R, as there are plenty of other threads on nice rimfire rifles.

So I'll start it off with mine, which is set up for Rimfire PRS/NRS/CRPS. I've got a B-14 R steel barrelled action in an MPA Comp chassis. The chassis has the big bag rider, adjustable mag catch, forward internal weight kit, Area 419 Arcalock, MPA spigot. The barrelled action is wearing an EGW 40 MOA rail, a TT Diamond set at just over 1 lb, Area 419 bolt knob, and has a ReddNobb Tuna Can. The Minox ZP5 5-25x56 MR4 is in ARC medium rings. Same setup I use for centrefire.

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I have about 1300 rounds through the pipe now and it is starting slick up nicely. Bolt is really smoothing out. I had a few failures to eject fired rounds earlier, but that seems to have gone away. Feeding has been reliable but talking to a few guys, it seems that mag height can be sensitive.

Over 10 types of ammo has been tested and I have settled on SK Rifle Match and Lapua Center-X for now.

Here are my results from last week https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...0-Tuna-can?p=17954703&viewfull=1#post17954703

I did some more testing with the tuner. Groups were shot at 50 yards, 4mph wind coming from 6:30. Group sizes in inches.

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So it seems like it's starting to shoot well. I'll try it out further when conditions permit.
 
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Johnny Boom said:
Over 10 types of ammo has been tested and I have settled on SK Rifle Match and Lapua Center-X for now.

Here are my results from last week https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...0-Tuna-can?p=17954703&viewfull=1#post17954703

I did some more testing with the tuner. Groups were shot at 50 yards, 4mph wind coming from 6:30. Group sizes in inches.

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So it seems like it's starting to shoot well. I'll try it out further when conditions permit.
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On the targets shown above and in the linked thread, there are notations beside each group -- T 0.2, T 0.25, T 0.3 etc. Is it correct that these represent different Tuna Can tuner settings?

On your post that's linked above, you note that "T 0.2 seems to have the best group." What process are you using to determine and verify the correct setting?
 
grauhanen said:
On the targets shown above and in the linked thread, there are notations beside each group -- T 0.2, T 0.25, T 0.3 etc. Is it correct that these represent different Tuna Can tuner settings?

On your post that's linked above, you note that "T 0.2 seems to have the best group." What process are you using to determine and verify the correct setting?
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@Grauhanen, I'm going to address your questions here for continuity https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...0-Tuna-can?p=17957904&viewfull=1#post17957904
 
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My B14r drops the first shot .4/5 mil low every time. If the gun sits for 10 minutes it does it again. And we have done it with other shooters
 
Jamie said:
My B14r drops the first shot .4/5 mil low every time. If the gun sits for 10 minutes it does it again. And we have done it with other shooters
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Hey Jamie, I've heard of this. Does it do it with all ammo? Did you try getting the gun really clean? Does it occur at a particular temperature? How much torque do you have on the action screws?
 
I started a thread that turned into a debacle regarding how good the B14R actually is. Too many fan boys out there that prefer fantasy over fact.

Anyway, I got out to the range yesterday and performed a side by side 10 shot, 100 yard accuracy test between a variety of rifles including...

1) Bergara BR14R
2) Vuddoo
3) RimX
4) Anschutz 54
5) CZ452
6) Tactical Solutions 1022

The test was designed to minimize the effect of wind condition changes when each rifle was fired. This was done through the use of two shooters shooting side by side at the same time for each shot. 1,2 fire, then both shooters would shoot at the same time. Whatever wind changes that occurred affected both shots equally.

Neither shooter made any effort to compensate for changes in wind and just held center of the aiming point for all shots. It was quite breezy and wind conditions changed considerably throughout the shoot.

The rifle with the best 10 shot group went on to repeat with the next contender. No bias was implied but it was expected that the Anschutz would take it.

Ammo used was SK Long Range Match for...
1) Vuddoo
2) RimX
3) Tactical Solutions 1022

Ammo was RWS Pistol Match for
1) Bergara B14R
2) Anschutz 54
2) CZ452

Now, we did not make any effort to confirm that any of the ammo was the very best choice for any of the rifles. It was just ammo that both shooters believed worked reasonably well in the rifles.

In the end it was the Bergara B14R that edged out all contenders. The Tactical Solutions 1022 put up a surprising effort and may have taken it if not for one way low flyer that we attributed to the semi auto.

It's all on video and I will post at some point when I have the time.
 
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Johnny Boom said:
Hey Jamie, I've heard of this. Does it do it with all ammo? Did you try getting the gun really clean? Does it occur at a particular temperature? How much torque do you have on the action screws?
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Interesting that you mentioned this because we found the same thing yesterday. It was not a factor in our test because both rifles were warmed up a little before the 10 round test string started.
 
Maple57 said:
I started a thread that turned into a debacle regarding how good the B14R actually is. Too many fan boys out there that prefer fantasy over fact.

Anyway, I got out to the range yesterday and performed a side by side 10 shot, 100 yard accuracy test between a variety of rifles including...

1) Bergara BR14R
2) Vuddoo
3) RimX
4) Anschutz 54
5) CZ452
6) Tactical Solutions 1022

The test was designed to minimize the effect of wind condition changes when each rifle was fired. This was done through the use of two shooters shooting side by side at the same time for each shot. 1,2 fire, then both shooters would shoot at the same time. Whatever wind changes that occurred affected both shots equally.

Neither shooter made any effort to compensate for changes in wind and just held center of the aiming point for all shots. It was quite breezy and wind conditions changed considerably throughout the shoot.

The rifle with the best 10 shot group went on to repeat with the next contender. No bias was implied but it was expected that the Anschutz would take it.

Ammo used was SK Long Range Match for...
1) Vuddoo
2) RimX
3) Tactical Solutions 1022

Ammo was RWS Pistol Match for
1) Bergara B14R
2) Anschutz 54
2) CZ452

Now, we did not make any effort to confirm that any of the ammo was the very best choice for any of the rifles. It was just ammo that both shooters believed worked reasonably well in the rifles.

In the end it was the Bergara B14R that edged out all contenders. The Tactical Solutions 1022 put up a surprising effort and may have taken it if not for one way low flyer that we attributed to the semi auto.

It's all on video and I will post at some point when I have the time.
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Interesting and I fully agree with the Bergara being highly under rated. A few shooting buddies of mine have purchased this rifle and its impressive. Ive stated on a couple different threads that I believe its by far the most gun for the least money. However interesting your test is, unless all the guns were fired at the same time, its only comparing the two rifles fired at the same time against each other. Conditions would almost absolutely be different for each two rifles fired against each other at subsequent intervals. I have seen how great they shoot and with the savings a lot of other stuff can be bought to customize or purchase optics etc. A Best Buy for sure.
 
Longstud said:
Interesting and I fully agree with the Bergara being highly under rated. A few shooting buddies of mine have purchased this rifle and its impressive. Ive stated on a couple different threads that I believe its by far the most gun for the least money. However interesting your test is, unless all the guns were fired at the same time, its only comparing the two rifles fired at the same time against each other. Conditions would almost absolutely be different for each two rifles fired against each other at subsequent intervals. I have seen how great they shoot and with the savings a lot of other stuff can be bought to customize or purchase optics etc. A Best Buy for sure.
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Seems you misunderstood how the test worked. It was completely fair because only groups from rifles that were fired at the same time were evaluated against each other.

A vs B and B wins

B vs C and B wins

B vs D and B wins etc

The group fired by A was not relevant to the group fired by D, only if it was better than B or not when it shot against B.

In the case B was always the winner.

If C had beaten B then C would have shot against D
 
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Maple57 said:
I started a thread that turned into a debacle regarding how good the B14R actually is. Too many fan boys out there that prefer fantasy over fact.

Anyway, I got out to the range yesterday and performed a side by side 10 shot, 100 yard accuracy test between a variety of rifles including...

1) Bergara BR14R
2) Vuddoo
3) RimX
4) Anschutz 54
5) CZ452
6) Tactical Solutions 1022

The test was designed to minimize the effect of wind condition changes when each rifle was fired. This was done through the use of two shooters shooting side by side at the same time for each shot. 1,2 fire, then both shooters would shoot at the same time. Whatever wind changes that occurred affected both shots equally.

Neither shooter made any effort to compensate for changes in wind and just held center of the aiming point for all shots. It was quite breezy and wind conditions changed considerably throughout the shoot.

The rifle with the best 10 shot group went on to repeat with the next contender. No bias was implied but it was expected that the Anschutz would take it.

Ammo used was SK Long Range Match for...
1) Vuddoo
2) RimX
3) Tactical Solutions 1022

Ammo was RWS Pistol Match for
1) Bergara B14R
2) Anschutz 54
2) CZ452

Now, we did not make any effort to confirm that any of the ammo was the very best choice for any of the rifles. It was just ammo that both shooters believed worked reasonably well in the rifles.

In the end it was the Bergara B14R that edged out all contenders. The Tactical Solutions 1022 put up a surprising effort and may have taken it if not for one way low flyer that we attributed to the semi auto.

It's all on video and I will post at some point when I have the time.
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No I locked your thread because you. And the god type that you believe you are.

Stay in your lane and post facts results and keep the fiction to yourself at bed time.

I own a bergara it is ok. Both the rimx and voodoo are better. Could I add a better barrel and bring it up closer? Yes. But then the mags would still be average at best.
 
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Jamie said:
Last time I checked we don’t get to warm up before each stage.
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Barrel heaters are on their way. The batteries add weight to the chassis. ;)

I'm just wondering because with centrefire it goes away after the first shot of the day. But it seems with the rimfires it comes back after about 10 minutes, enough time for the barrels to cool off I guess.
 
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Jamie said:
Stay in your lane and post facts results and keep the fiction to yourself at bed time.

I own a bergara it is ok. Both the rimx and voodoo are better. Could I add a better barrel and bring it up closer? Yes. But then the mags would still be average at best.
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Interesting thing about facts and fiction...

My post that seems to infuriate you was based upon an actual fair and impartial accuracy test, and yet you claim the above without presenting any information as to how you arrived at this conclusion.... "better... huh... just better... not sure what that even means.

If you cant win a debate with actual facts, then you attack the man personally instead right.

As I stated earlier, the entire thing is on video, but with the attitude I get here from a moderator of all people, I don't think I will share it with cgn.

Jump to your own conclusions...
 
Maple57 said:
Interesting thing about facts and fiction...

My post that seems to infuriate you was based upon an actual fair and impartial accuracy test, and yet you claim the above without presenting any information as to how you arrived at this conclusion.... "better... huh... just better... not sure what that even means.

If you cant win a debate with actual facts, then you attack the man personally instead right.

As I stated earlier, the entire thing is on video, but with the attitude I get here from a moderator of all people, I don't think I will share it with cgn.

Jump to your own conclusions...
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As a Bergara owner. The rimx and Voodoo are better. Period. Could the top shooters win with the Bergara. Yes.

You come across as the King in all things PRS. Clam 40 wins or medals you are full of yourself.

I want to see this test vid. I really do. I mention that my Bergara dumps the first round low. You say yours did too but didn’t matter cause the gun was warm......Want facts. The bergara mags suck. I do not see them lasting long without some kind of mod or a second generation. Fact the factory trigger is poor. Maybe my round count is to low on it I am still under 500. Does it need more? Tell me?Did I get a dud? Yesterday 20degs first round .5 low. Rest of the mag all in around 1 moa at 100. My nephew shoots a mag with the tikka. My turn so say 10 minutes later first round .5 low rest into the group.

My buddy’s Rimx has no cold bore shift. Same with the Voodoo.Tell me offer advice.

Let’s keep this about the rifle and the OP’s post. Tricks and tips mods and photos.

And your post was locked because it went so for off the rails it was pointless to continue. Your claims of PRs glory without a shred of prof was enough.
 
Johnny Boom said:
Hey Jamie, I've heard of this. Does it do it with all ammo? Did you try getting the gun really clean? Does it occur at a particular temperature? How much torque do you have on the action screws?
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With all SK I have tried to date yes.
 
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