Berger 95 VLD in a Savage model 12 243 9.25 twist

[Timberwolfe]

I bought 2 boxes of these bullets Berger 95 gr. VLd. And I can not get them to group at all. I tried using Alliant 22 from book minimum to maximum at 10,000 off of the lands of my Savage Model 12 243. And it seemed to pattern instead of group like 4 inches at 100.

The gun is a shooter just for plinking I have a few boxes of Hornady 75 gr. HP and with a minimum load of Varget it easily groups less than an inch.

Are these bullets too long for the 9.25 twist or are there better powders suited to theses heavier bullets?

If anybody has had any luck getting these bullets to shoot itty bitty groups please tell me your tricks.

Thanks Timberwolfe

 

[powder monkey]

I can't remember what the twist is on my CZ .243,but it didn't like those bullets either.The VLDs are finicky.I found the 60&90 grain Bergers shot really well though.

 

[6mm Shooter]

Try this: H4831SC with the bullet 10 thou into the lands. They have shot great out of three different savages I have had.

 

[Timberwolfe]

Thanks I will give it a try!

 

[curtmg]

If that doesn't work wolfe, I'll find a home for the powder if you don't want it

 

[Timberwolfe]

Why do you have a cup I could borrow?

 

[curtmg]

I'll split a pound with you if you can find it. I'm trying to stay out that part of town, costs too much money. Just bring it by the office

 

[dan belisle]

Those Bergers are going to be right on the edge of stabilization with a 9.25 twist, IMO. A 1-8 would work much better for them. Try a slightly shorter bullet in your gun. - dan

 

[Ganderite]

Twist is the problem. Your only hope with that bullet is more velocity (more RPM). Work up with 4831SC, RL22 and H1000.

 

[Timberwolfe]

I knew it would be on the bubble as for twist when I bought these bullets. Being a savage I have plans on putting a better barrel on it somewhere in the future.

 

[cycbb486]

The 95 gr Bergers

should work just fine in the 9.25 twist. They work fine in my Rem 700 243 with 9.25 twist at any temp.

I would think a powder change is in order. Reloader 22 seems a bit on the slow side.

 

[dan belisle]

That is correct, velocity will let you get away with a slightly too fast twist, at least in some guns. All you can do is try and get the speed up and see what happens. - dan

 

[Ganderite]

Dan meant "... too slow twist..."