A close friend of mine took an awesome Grizzly Bear this spring with his 7mm Rem Mag, using the 180 Berger VLD. The Grizzly apparently jumped up, spun around and expired, sliding down a big slide that was covered in snow. He shot it broadside at fairly short range, and he said the lungs were complete mush. Don't get me wrong, I am not advocating the VLD for grizzly hunting, just passing on a single experience that worked. I personally would have to take a number of non-dangerous animals with the VLD before I gave a full report. For now, the Partitions & the TSX or TTSX are doing just fine. Regards, Eagleye.