Best 180 for Compatibility
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ARs have been prohibited by Order in Council. The 180 isn't an AR, and with some exceptions to parts compatibility, they are different animals.
Even with some of that parts compatibility, you may find fitment issues with common parts.
For that reason, I'd recommend looking at either a complete rifle, or perhaps a completely different rifle.
Even with some of that parts compatibility, you may find fitment issues with common parts.
For that reason, I'd recommend looking at either a complete rifle, or perhaps a completely different rifle.
Why not build one? I build my short barrel 180 from nothing. Super simple to put together. Moreso than an AR15
What platform did you start with?
If you are talking about using the maximum number of modular, non-AR180 proprietary parts on an AR180 based receiver, the Jard J180 Builder Kit may meet your requirement, sold by Sylvestre Sporting Goods in Canada. Every part inside the receiver is included and already installed, including a fairly nice trigger that can optionally be replaced with any standard AR trigger, and a pistol grip that can be swapped for any non-beavertail pistol grip. It uses any buffer tube based stock, and since there is nothing in the buffer you could use a folding adapter or buffer tube to 1913 adapter and a 1913 stock. The 180 recoil harvesting system is fed by a gas tube instead of a piston, so the firearm uses any standard AR-15 barrel, gas block, gas tube, and handguard.
If the aesthetics don't meet your liking, or you would rather buy a made in Canada solution, SBI is working on an upper and DI BCG to match their WK lower that would allow use of a similar number of standardized parts.
If the aesthetics don't meet your liking, or you would rather buy a made in Canada solution, SBI is working on an upper and DI BCG to match their WK lower that would allow use of a similar number of standardized parts.
TNA Enhanced Receiver set. I have a thread on here about it if you click on my profile and look at my started threads. Full build list + photo
Not worth it in my opinion.
The pile of parts I suspect are going to cost more in the end buying them piece-meal, as opposed to buying a completed rifle.
The WK has had a history of issues, which appear to all be addressed under warranty, but a parts gun will be afforded no such luxury.
I'm not yet convinced that any other model of 180 clone will not be subjected to similar growing pains as the WK.
I see you are going with a SBR - I doubt many are looking for a restricted rifle with these guns, but even still, it is likely cheaper to just buy a completed rifle and a separate barrel for a swap.
Again, jmho. You milage obviously varies.
With respect to the ease of assembly, just speaking of my recent experience with trying to fit a number of fairly common front AR hand guards to a WK after a recent barrel swap. Not all parts designed for AR are going to be 'plug and play' on the 180 clones.
Thats not necessarily true. My build cost a total of around $1900. This includes a $500 Criterion barrel, Enhanced upper and lower, adjustable gas block, external bolt release etc. These issues you speak of are most commonly piston breakage, and broken charging handles. Both of which are addressed with the TNA Enhanced upper which features a beefier cam pin, lubricated brass piston bushing, and a bolt on charging handle with an indexing pin. Even if you still have these parts breakages TNA has their own warranty for their parts, and the commonly broken parts, and incredibly cheap to replace.
With the addition of beavertail grip compatibility, a nickel-boron coated bolt carrier, a built in shell deflector, dust cover and the previously mentioned reliability upgrades I would say its plenty worth it considering a new MCR is $1600-$1700 before tax.
In regards to AR15 parts compatibility, well it isn't an AR15. The gas block is considerably larger and as such requires a handguard with more clearance.
Well, I paid around $1000 for a WK when they first came out, and that is about what they are worth.
The gas block on that rifle was pinned in like an AR front sight base, so that gun came properly assembled - not sure if or why they would deviate from that (let me take a wild stab at that - $$$$).
I can see the prices rising a few hundred to account for increases in quality on certain parts, or better QC, but $1500 is stretching the viability of these being an inexpensive semi-auto blaster.
For $1900?
Too much for a parts gun and that should have one re-examining their options for complete rifles.
IMHO
I wouldn't over pay for a criterion, especially one that was around 12", and there is no way I'd sink money into a restricted semi-auto in our current regulatory and political nightmare - again, imho - ymmv.
The gas block on that rifle was pinned in like an AR front sight base, so that gun came properly assembled - not sure if or why they would deviate from that (let me take a wild stab at that - $$$$).
I can see the prices rising a few hundred to account for increases in quality on certain parts, or better QC, but $1500 is stretching the viability of these being an inexpensive semi-auto blaster.
For $1900?
Too much for a parts gun and that should have one re-examining their options for complete rifles.
IMHO
I wouldn't over pay for a criterion, especially one that was around 12", and there is no way I'd sink money into a restricted semi-auto in our current regulatory and political nightmare - again, imho - ymmv.
Shoot them an email. They probably have a few blems laying around they could sell you
