Best .22lr option if I can only own one.

metalbender said:
455's have setscrews, not pressed and pinned like an Anschutz. I'll stick with my 452's and Anschutz.
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Ive owned a 455 varmint, a 452 varmint, a 455 Canadian and now soon a 455 American synthetic.

The difference between them is negligible. The difference accuracy wise between the 452 and 452 varmints, well there was no difference. Both right around 1/2 inch at 50 yards with good ammo.

The 455 Canadian out shot them both.
 
Tom E Gun said:
I agree, but we certainly seem to be in the minority here on CGN. My CZ455 outshot my CZ452 by a wide margin during my comparison testing. So much so, that the CZ452 is now long gone and not at all missed, while the CZ455 still gets to go to the range almost every time I do.
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Right, if you look at the review I posted... I don't see ONE thing that isn't BETTER other then peoples OPINION on how they attach the barrels now...

Better mags, beefier bolt, torx screw not flat head, better trigger guard and much better lines and shapes.
 
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ruger american rimfire is a nice and reasonably priced, now target model, and SR coming to Canada
uses 10/22 mags, pretty good trigger(with a spring removed), action sits in a "V" blocks, do not know why people ignoring it
 
I have a about a dozen .22's one of them is a Ruger American and it sis one of the best, most accurate, and underrated.22 'S out there.
 
1. Anschutz. For fit and finish quality and accuracy, they are really in a class of their own. Just picked up another one with a Lyman peep sight and globe aptitude front from one of the sites sponsors for just under $200 and they included delivery also.

2. Marlin 2000. If you do a quick online search you will fine that during the 1990s Marlin produced some of the most accurate rifles ever. The company dumped a bunch of money bringing these entry level target/biathlon rifles to market. They were everywhere for a short period of time but was dropped because it cost too much to make. Accuracy as accuracy goes, these were the only rifles that brought the fear of God to Anschutz and for less than a third of the price. Keep your eyes peel for one of these gems. They use modern Marlin 10 round magazines and I picked mine up for $450 which included a hard case and a Lyman peep sight with a globe front.

3. CZ 452. The more expensive of the 3 but still under $600. The quality and accuracy is there but being commercially available you will save the hassle of looking for the first two. The CZ 452 is a higher quality rifle than the 455 and is discontinued. There are still plenty around, it just costs more to make than the 452 and they are priced roughly the same. If you have patients, the first 2 are better options IMO.
 
Garaldtao said:
1. Anschutz. For fit and finish quality and accuracy, they are really in a class of their own. Just picked up another one with a Lyman peep sight and globe aptitude front from one of the sites sponsors for just under $200 and they included delivery also.

2. Marlin 2000. If you do a quick online search you will fine that during the 1990s Marlin produced some of the most accurate rifles ever. The company dumped a bunch of money bringing these entry level target/biathlon rifles to market. They were everywhere for a short period of time but was dropped because it cost too much to make. Accuracy as accuracy goes, these were the only rifles that brought the fear of God to Anschutz and for less than a third of the price. Keep your eyes peel for one of these gems. They use modern Marlin 10 round magazines and I picked mine up for $450 which included a hard case and a Lyman peep sight with a globe front.

3. CZ 452. The more expensive of the 3 but still under $600. The quality and accuracy is there but being commercially available you will save the hassle of looking for the first two. The CZ 452 is a higher quality rifle than the 455 and is discontinued. There are still plenty around, it just costs more to make than the 452 and they are priced roughly the same. If you have patients, the first 2 are better options IMO.
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1. Where do you guys keep finding rifles like this, I scan our sponsors multiple times a week. Never seem to get lucky.

3. Please provide ONE solid testing of the rifle, not some dude who shot what he had on hand and wrote a review... Definitely not only your personal opinion and theories. If we go off that, my 455 Canadian out shoots a 452 varmint and a 455 varmint...

Also tell me what one of the changes you DONT see as an improvement. This is a very good SIDE by SIDE document. h ttp://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=32042.0

From my personal experiences with both the 452 and 455 there is no reduction in quality. I would argue, many of the parts are more finely turned and polished than the 452. The barrel swap is not intended to be done every week. Many fine high end target rifles incorporate the same barrel swapping method as the 455 and will outshoot most threaded barrel sporter and target rifles.
 
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for me:
1) Ruger 10/22 (bone stock or tweaked i love them all)
2) Ruger American Rimefire (half the price of my CZ and my Savage and shoots just as accurate)
3) CZ 452 Varmint (because thats the one i have and ive never shot a 455!)
 
I only have one .22 lr. It is a CZ 452 Varmint with a Leupold 3-9x40. Since getting that rifle used from our EE, I do not even look at other 22 rifles which may be for sale. It has a Yo Dave trigger kit installed. It is accurate,well made, solid, and fun to shoot. I like the varmint weight because it puts the rifle weight close to that of my bolt center fire rifles. When shooting practice with the CZ, it is almost like shooting my other center fire rifles with respect to weight, action,sights and feel. I have been shooting various .22 lr rifles for more than 50 years,but for the last 5 years at least, this CZ has been the only .22 lr in the safe.
 
Pete G said:
I only have one .22 lr. It is a CZ 452 Varmint with a Leupold 3-9x40. Since getting that rifle used from our EE, I do not even look at other 22 rifles which may be for sale. It has a Yo Dave trigger kit installed. It is accurate,well made, solid, and fun to shoot. I like the varmint weight because it puts the rifle weight close to that of my bolt center fire rifles. When shooting practice with the CZ, it is almost like shooting my other center fire rifles with respect to weight, action,sights and feel. I have been shooting various .22 lr rifles for more than 50 years,but for the last 5 years at least, this CZ has been the only .22 lr in the safe.
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I did love my 452 varmint, also my 455 varmint. Not sure why I sold either of them. They are definitely the guns that I question my sanity when I look back.

I didn't enjoy hunting with them as much though. Was so worried about them! lmao Also the HB is a big annoying for tree rat hunting. So that's why I picked up the cz 455 American synthetic. Light, accurate, durable (wont have to worry about that stock). If I get the inkling for a bench 22 again ill buy an annie
 
Canadiankeeper said:
Don't give me that crap about pinned barrels, that's how annies get em on also.
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It takes a pin which has a diameter of the bolt and a small sledge hammer to remove an Anschutz barrel from the action, it is precision machined to the action with a taper.
The two flimsy set screws in the 455 design is just pain ridicules, once removed, you will never get them back at the same torque and I can well imagine the people who have no technical aptitude changing barrels on this rifle.
The 455 switch barrel system is a dumb idea which should/could have been a much better design.
 
I have 4 semis which simply do not jam; Taurus 63 (Winchester copy), Winchester 77, Mossberg 151, and the Norinco copy of the little Browning ATD semi takedown. The 77 you can't clean from the chamber end with a rod, you have to go down the muzzle. Same with the Taurus 63. Both the 151 and the Norinco/Browning ATD are super easy to take down for cleaning. The Browning design wins hands down for simplicity and ease of cleaning - no tools needed.
 
Al Flipo said:
I can well imagine the people who have no technical aptitude changing barrels on this rifle.
The 455 switch barrel system is a dumb idea which should/could have been a much better design.
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The point of the design was to allow the average user to easily change barrels (intelligence and aptitude are not qualities held by the masses). It's actually not that bad of a design, so long as you do not over torque it. For what the rifle is designed to be, this is not a major area of concern. Those looking to custom build off the 455 action with accuracy in mind will permanently attach the barrel with retaining compound and leave the grub screws off.

I have more gripes with CZ's barrel manufacturing methods and chambering techniques. Until the QC improves on this, the set screw barrel attachment isn't worth worrying about. At least CZ's will hit the broad side of a barn from 10 paces :rolleyes:
 
wayupnorth said:
for me:
1) Ruger 10/22 (bone stock or tweaked i love them all)
2) Ruger American Rimefire (half the price of my CZ and my Savage and shoots just as accurate)
3) CZ 452 Varmint (because thats the one i have and ive never shot a 455!)
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agree with option #1 ( model 1149 sporter stainless) and option #2 (model 8334 SB), same mags too, for option #3 would get a crate of ammo and beer
 
I would go with 10/22 as well, ive owned over 20 rimfires over the last 10 years, i buy used and am a bit of a trader.
3 years ago i went down to one rimfire my 10/22. By the way i had the 795 and for me the best thing about the10/22 is the 10 round flush fit rotary magazine. I then bought another 10/22. If i could do it again i would get the takedown with a sporter and target barrel. Today i have a bunch of others again but it kept me content for a while and i take the 10/22 out the most and 5 factory mags.

I also had a 552 speedmaster and it was an unstopable rifle that was as accurate as the 795
 
I have had a few.... But, a Cooey model 60 is a good choice, and my little badger gets the most use....


Honestly the little bager is absolutely awesome.


and you can't go wrong with a Cooey.
 
Really depends, I have had my Anschutz bolt for years, then bought another 10/22 and prefer it because it's a semi auto.

Also have a CAR15 with a CMMG .22 kit and it really functions great s well, I would take this as it can switch between .22 and .223, but it cannot be used anywhere other than a range, more of a SHTF gun not a plinker.

Recenty I picked up a GSG STG 44 (600.00), it is a tank! Metal and wood, and the action is designed much like the CMMG .22 kit. This can use 25 round magazines (well designed), and has a lifetime warranty, my decision would be the GSG, as it eats everything and just plain fun to shoot!

The lifetime warranty is another reason I bought it, as we shoot lots during the year. Something about being all metal and wood just sets it apart from others, everyone that sees it and experiences it 9.5 lb heft wants to shoot it, all grin afterwards. We do lots of gopher shooting so I like semis, miss the 25 mags of our 10/22. :(





The action sits well inside the receiver, love the dust cover for plinking in the wild, I do not use my bolt action for plinking as we like shooting spinners and clays lined up. We shoot left to centre and right to centre as a race, but my kid uses his STG44 pretty good, ah young eyes beat my bi focals. :(


Gun was 600.00, mags are 45.00, K98 leather sling was 30.00, scope mount 45.00.
 
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Soooooo subjective, and depends entirely on what criteria you consider important. I went through literally dozens of .22's over the years and also made the decision to whittle it down to "just one". My personal criteria was it had to be accurate for obvious reasons, durable enough to last until my great grandkids lifetime, had to have both iron sights and a low power scope, and a tubular magazine for simplicity and high capacity. No tacticool Lightning fast reloads were necessary.

Eventually I settled on an old mossberg 146-B. And before you laugh, be aware that it has a hand lead lapped bore from the factory, and all wear parts are made of colour case hardened steel. Accuracy wise it'll shoot virtually any ammo into 1/2"-3/4" groups at 50m with the old low profile 4x scope that's on it. All I had to do was make a new steel trigger guard from scratch. Cost me less than $300, and it's my one lifetime gun. 4 years on and I honestly see no reason to buy another .22. Especially not with the prices going up the way they are nowadays.

 
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