Best .375?

I had a 602 with the set trigger and hated it (nothing against the guys that like it).
Every time I snooze the trigger I got a different feel and pull weight. I took it to my gunsmith and he said that the trigger is meant to be fired with the set.

I never got used to it, sold the gun, and bought another 602 without the set.

I hunted brownies with the 602 for one year and found the safety to be counter intuitive. In the thick stuff when bears were near I walked around with the barrel high and my thumb on the safety ready to shoot. The system was very foreign and did not feel natural to me.

The dangerous game guys will laugh, but my next bear hunt I carried a Remington based gun and felt perfectly at home. With a Remington I don't have to think about anything whether it be the safety, working the bolt, cheek weld, trigger pull or whatever ...It's what your used to I guess.

I see so many guys go buy some foreign gun to go on a big bear or dangerous game hunt and F*** up when they would be so much better off with "old Betsy" in the basement.
 
X-fan said:
I had a 602 with the set trigger and hated it (nothing against the guys that like it).
Every time I snooze the trigger I got a different feel and pull weight. I took it to my gunsmith and he said that the trigger is meant to be fired with the set.

I never got used to it, sold the gun, and bought another 602 without the set.

I hunted brownies with the 602 for one year and found the safety to be counter intuitive. In the thick stuff when bears were near I walked around with the barrel high and my thumb on the safety ready to shoot. The system was very foreign and did not feel natural to me.

The dangerous game guys will laugh, but my next bear hunt I carried a Remington based gun and felt perfectly at home. With a Remington I don't have to think about anything whether it be the safety, working the bolt, cheek weld, trigger pull or whatever ...It's what your used to I guess.

I see so many guys go buy some foreign gun to go on a big bear or dangerous game hunt and F*** up when they would be so much better off with "old Betsy" in the basement.
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You make some excellent points. When it comes time to shoot, you don't have time to open the manual to see how the gun works. Your mind needs to address the problem in front of you, and if you are not completely used to the rifle in your hands you'll fumble.

I never got used to a M-70 safety, and when I used one I would just lift the bolt handle out of battery rather than worry about it. To get used to the safety on my 602, I just thought of an exposed hammer and kept saying over and over #### to fire, #### to fire. If that doesn't work for you, you need to make another choice. If I was to choose a North American bolt gun it would probably be a Ruger.

I've used rifles with Brno's set trigger, and I don't think this is an option I want on a dangerous game rifle.

Ross Seyfried wrote a marvelous article that I think was called "The Professional's Rifle". Without looking up the article, the rifle was based on a M-700 in .416 Remington. The action was bedded in a Brown Precision stock, the stock was built up with bondo so that his eye aligned perfectly with the sights, the front swivel was moved to the radius of the fore end, and he installed a custom single blade express sight and a front post. There is no reason why a M-700 based rifle won't work just fine.
 
Boomer said:
When it comes time to shoot, you don't have time to open the manual to see how the gun works. Your mind needs to address the problem in front of you, and if you are not completely used to the rifle in your hands you'll fumble.
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How about practising with the rifle? A lot!
 
Gibbs505 said:
How about practising with the rifle? A lot!
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I couldn't agree more. When I get my .375 I'm going to take it out "plinking". :D
It's not just rimfires you can do that with you know. ;)

God knows how many hunter's I've seen just line their gun up from a rest and then go hunting, and at most use only a box or 2 of shells a year.

A lot of people are not very good offhand shots with the heavier hunting rifles.
 
I bought one!

I just bought a SAKO L61R Finnbear Deluxe. :D

The gun has no sights. I'd be putting on a scope probably no bigger then a 32mm Objective. I was thinking of something in the 1.5-5X range, possibly a Leupold. I want high quality solid mounts for this gun. The dealer says it seems to be set up for Sako specific OptiLock bases and rings. So what bases should I get? And which rings? Or go with a different brand?
 
Gibbs505 said:
How about practising with the rifle? A lot!
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you are ight of course, practice is the only way to become competent with any rifle. But if there is something about a particular rifle that a guy can't get your head around he might be better to switch. Some folks just seem to have a tough time with the 602's safety. If you regularly shoot half a dozen 700's and one 602, chances are you'll mess up with the 602. If you shoot a couple of lever guns and a 602, it might not be as much of a problem. If you make up your mind to master the rifle you have, chances are you will.
 
Gibbs505,

For me practice is the problem.
I shoot 1500 rounds or so each year out of several custom (identical) hunting Remingtons. I shoot even more out of my Tac and Long Range rifles...They all are Remington.
Other than playing around I have never shot much else.

With my Remingtons everything is autopilot I just shoot. The Brno is so backward (to me) that nothing fits, functions, or feels right. I go to shoot the Brno and things immediately get/feel weird.....Even the extra long bolt travel throws me off and shrinks my confidence.

Control round Feed rifles are something I have always admired, desired, and wanted to hunt with, but at least for me they are not the way to go.

No disrespect to those that use and love them.
 
K98 said:
I just bought a SAKO L61R Finnbear Deluxe. :D

The gun has no sights. I'd be putting on a scope probably no bigger then a 32mm Objective. I was thinking of something in the 1.5-5X range, possibly a Leupold. I want high quality solid mounts for this gun. The dealer says it seems to be set up for Sako specific OptiLock bases and rings. So what bases should I get? And which rings? Or go with a different brand?
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Optiloks are the best, but I have just switched my AV 300 win to Burris mounts to give me a bit more flexibility on scope position. I like it way forward and the scope is a conquest with 4" of eye relief.
 
luv2safari said:
I use my 375s and 416 Rigby for shooting 'yotes. It makes excellent practice for "the real thing".:eek:;)
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This being the real thing? I'm looking for a hyena to go with this puppy.:D It's really something how the .375 can not only be used for practically anything, but is actually a good option. I'm planning on using my .416 for buffalo, but the .375 is coming too.



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Ok, so I know as a rule of thumb you're supposed to spend as much on the scope as the rifle.... but who is making a £19,740 scope?

Probably have to give Swarovski Optik a call and see if they could team up with Swarovski Fine Jewellery to make something close to being suitable. Maybe if I sprayed the stock with rocker guard I could get away with using a $2000 scope :evil:
 
X-fan said:
Gibbs505,

For me practice is the problem.
I shoot 1500 rounds or so each year out of several custom (identical) hunting Remingtons. I shoot even more out of my Tac and Long Range rifles...They all are Remington.
Other than playing around I have never shot much else.

With my Remingtons everything is autopilot I just shoot. The Brno is so backward (to me) that nothing fits, functions, or feels right. I go to shoot the Brno and things immediately get/feel weird.....Even the extra long bolt travel throws me off and shrinks my confidence.

Control round Feed rifles are something I have always admired, desired, and wanted to hunt with, but at least for me they are not the way to go.

No disrespect to those that use and love them.
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Then, if the rifle is such a poor fit for you, I suggest that you sell or trade it for a rifle that fits you better!

boomer said:
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How about practising with the rifle? A lot!


you are ight of course, practice is the only way to become competent with any rifle. But if there is something about a particular rifle that a guy can't get your head around he might be better to switch. Some folks just seem to have a tough time with the 602's safety. If you regularly shoot half a dozen 700's and one 602, chances are you'll mess up with the 602. If you shoot a couple of lever guns and a 602, it might not be as much of a problem. If you make up your mind to master the rifle you have, chances are you will.
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I agree, then I suggest that you do the same!

A rifles 'fit' and 'feel' is extremly important and this appears to be the problem for both of you.
 
Gibbs505 said:
I agree, then I suggest that you do the same!

A rifles 'fit' and 'feel' is extremly important and this appears to be the problem for both of you.
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I am pretty sure Boomer has a pretty good handle on his custom built 602. I suggest you read more than posting all the time, that seems to be your problem.
 
crazy_davey said:
I am pretty sure Boomer has a pretty good handle on his custom built 602. I suggest you read more than posting all the time, that seems to be your problem.
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Actually I did read it. You will notice that I said "I agree".

I had a rifle that did not fit me, so I sold it and purchased something else. That was what I was suggesting. To keep a rifle that doses not fit you seems to me to be unwise and unnecessary. Someone elsemay be a better fit for that particular firearm. if there are other reasons to keep it, then by all means do so. But to take that particular rifle hunting, when it is admitted that the rifle is a poor fit and uncomfortable to shoot seems to me to be the height of folly and a wounded animal in the making.

No disrespect to either X-fan or Boomer, both of whom seem to be quality people.

Sometimes I say less then what I know on the assumption that others also know more then what they say!
 
Gibbs505 said:
Actually I did read it. You will notice that I said "I agree".

I had a rifle that did not fit me, so I sold it and purchased something else. That was what I was suggesting. To keep a rifle that doses not fit you seems to me to be unwise and unnecessary. Someone elsemay be a better fit for that particular firearm. if there are other reasons to keep it, then by all means do so. But to take that particular rifle hunting, when it is admitted that the rifle is a poor fit and uncomfortable to shoot seems to me to be the height of folly and a wounded animal in the making.

No disrespect to either X-fan or Boomer, both of whom seem to be quality people.

Sometimes I say less then what I know on the assumption that others also know more then what they say!
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When ever did Boomer say that his custom 602 did not fit him or that it was a problem?
 
Gibbs505 said:
read post #36.
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There are not enough expletives to describe how much I don't like the idea of a set trigger on dangerous game rifles in general, and the 602's in particular. Still, some folks like them, but if you are in a hurry they aren't the best option.

My 602 holds 4 Ultras, you can jam in a fifth one, but it makes the first round difficult to chamber. I've thought about a magazine extension, but I can't really justify the cost.
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So where in there does he say his rifle does not fit him? He says he does not like the set trigger on the 602, but he does not have a set trigger on his custom 602.

So WTF are you talking about in this post:
I agree, then I suggest that you do the same!

A rifles 'fit' and 'feel' is extremly important and this appears to be the problem for both of you.
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Please explain to me what Boomers problem is again? Maybe you should PM him so he knows as well, I am sure he would love to hear it.
 
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