Best AR's in Canada?

Lungorthin said:
Would it not be just as accurate as any other CC with a longer barrel? Just less velocity?
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Yes, more barrel doesn't make a rifle more accurate. It does allow it to be easier to shoot well at longer ranges though. Some will argue a longer barrel is actually less accurate due to it being "stiffer", an argument not without merit.
 
Foxer2373 said:
Stated many times we are only getting the Black MMR's not to mention brace for a 2200-2500 $tag lol I'll pass not going to be worth the money.
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I thought that the first shipments are only going to be black. They are not doing cerakote colour at all ever?
 
redshooter said:
You need some sorting out...

First, I never once gave my opinion on Colt Canada Rifles. You can make assumptions, but I've never once stated my opinion that it's the best AR for the money. I have not held or fired a Colt Canada Product so my knowledge is second hand and I don't tend to rave about something I haven't held. To prevent you from making more assumptions, I was issued a DIEMACO Rifle for a bit, so my opinion isn't without merit.

Second, if you told me you were going to go play on the QEW at 07:30 I'd tell you it was stupid. It would be stating a fact, not attacking you. Judging a Rifle by the available stock on any given day is on the same level of flawed logic, if not risk.

Third, if you don't appreciate the fact that the Gold Standard for SF Units picked a Colt Canada product over the other challengers I can only question your understanding of the process. A bunch of Mall Ninjas pounding away on their keys really don't have a good understanding of what an Infantry Rifle will go through. I happen to know first hand. If Britain's Special Air Service selected a version of the C-8 it was because it was better or equal to all submitted Rifles. As for the comment, "if that means nothing to you then why am I even "talking" to you". I was speaking rhetorically, and yet you focus on that as an attack and gloss over the fact the "First among equals", The SAS, has picked a Colt Canada Rifle like it's being selected for general issue.

Here's some advice since you're new here. Share your opinion, this is a public forum. Read carefully, if you feel like your being "attacked", go back and read it again. Show some respect, if you are going to exchange views with someone take the time to understand their point and make sure you are expressing yourself clearly. As for respect, I just spent 1 1/2 hours formulating this reply because if I'm going to get in your face I'm going to take the time to express myself as clearly as I'm able. If a reply indicates I was misunderstood I go back and read what they said and what I said, I demand the same courtesy even if I don't expect it to happen.

Sorry to the OP for adding to the clutter...
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lol. That is my reply to you. I dont need your advice to voice my opinions on a public forum. You got overly emotional that I said CC isnt the best rifle. That's all. You were the only one to react that way. That is why i started talking to others who were more mature about it. Every thing you said literally applies to you
 
Nothing wrong with CC but we aren't in 2001 anymore. OP asked the best AR in Canada, not the best value and not the AR you currently own. When you want the best, you have to be ready to spend some monies. If you are on a budget, then you won't get the very best.

best=/= value
 
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84wh1 said:
I agree 100%. Seems like a waste when some dude drops 3k on an ar and does nothing but shoot t from a bench a couple times a year, but hey that's just my opinion.
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Even if it's only one time a year, there is nothing wrong using the best for that only time yearly, i always find quality preceed quantity... JP.
 
redshooter said:
Yes, more barrel doesn't make a rifle more accurate. It does allow it to be easier to shoot well at longer ranges though. Some will argue a longer barrel is actually less accurate due to it being "stiffer", an argument not without merit.
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Matt, from Colt Canada stated that the 15.7 inch barrel length was obtained by starting out with a longer barrel and cutting it back by increments until they hit the sweet spot for accuracy. I am not sure what the increments were or anything else about the tests. This information was part of the CC forum that was deleted. Also, this is just how I remember reading it, there could be parts missing from this that are critical pieces. The info was part of a discussion about the merits of having a 16" barrel so the rifles could be more easily taken to the US for competitions.
 
KeltecFan said:
Matt, from Colt Canada stated that the 15.7 inch barrel length was obtained by starting out with a longer barrel and cutting it back by increments until they hit the sweet spot for accuracy. I am not sure what the increments were or anything else about the tests. This information was part of the CC forum that was deleted. Also, this is just how I remember reading it, there could be parts missing from this that are critical pieces. The info was part of a discussion about the merits of having a 16" barrel so the rifles could be more easily taken to the US for competitions.
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Yes Sir! I recall reading the exact same thing re. the odd barrel length...and I misspoke there I meant to say the longer barrel is less stiff.
 
Biloh said:
lol. That is my reply to you. I dont need your advice to voice my opinions on a public forum. You got overly emotional that I said CC isnt the best rifle. That's all. You were the only one to react that way. That is why i started talking to others who were more mature about it. Every thing you said literally applies to you
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The last word is yours, I bow to your superior knowledge, spelling, sentence structure, and unemotional statements about the connection between supply, demand, and quality. I'm sorry for twisting your ambiguous, almost unintelligible statements to refute whatever it was you were trying to say. Please forgive me.

Again, sorry to the OP, I'm no longer adding to the conversation, time to stop. That's it for me...Out!
 
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To the OP, if you plan to spend around $3000 on the rifle then do yourself a favor and take a little time to handle some of your options. There has to be a brand already that gives you the warm and fuzzies?! If you're planning to keep the rifle for a good long while, it should be one that puts a smile on your face! For me, like others, that was the Knights SR-15. It wasn't hard to justify the extra money since it comes with so many upgraded features like the stock, trigger, hand guard, and some of the best iron sights out there. Bulk PMC XM193 holds around 1.5MOA and I have developed a 77 grain load that beats what I expected out of an AR. Whether I'm running around shooting 3 gun/tac matches or shooting steel at distance, this gun has me covered and then some. Just about 4000 rounds in 2 years and I haven't had one single hiccup.

If you plan to save some money, the Daniel Defense DDM4 V11 would be the next best thing. I have witnessed a few of these rifles run the same round counts with nada problems.

I'm sure the Colt's are great functioning guns but I have not seen them run first hand and I feel that the price tag's a little high for what you get. If they would produce a semi-auto version of the L119Ax for the civvy's, I would be all over it. But, like the KAC, I'm sure it would cost around that $3000 mark.

PS: I hate people using the mil-spec term to justify anything firearm related. It is a minimum standard used to qualify a weapon for military contract approval. Passing mil-spec is not an accomplishment.. The military's powers that be are satisfied with M193 ball shooting into an average group of 4", rifles weren't rejected until over 7" at 100 yards..
 
Biloh said:
I thought that the first shipments are only going to be black. They are not doing cerakote colour at all ever?
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From everything I have seen and heard, the only way we get anything other than black is if multiple company's all placed large orders at the same time for them. The colored option is only available to military and private security as far as I am aware.

Don't get me wrong I am a Tan lovin guy almost everything I own and run is tan or atleast tan on black. But these in my opinion are over hyped range toys that will look great but at the price tags that are coming would have a tough time tossing in a barrel in a 3 gun run... Spoken from a guy who can afford nice but can't afford to but a Gun case princess just to show off.

Correct me if I'm wrong but other than some decent externals there is nothing really diffrent or advanced than other colts and o can buy a blank for 1200$ and after upgrades and nice rails, butt stock and grip be under 2k....
 
Foxer2373 said:
From everything I have seen and heard, the only way we get anything other than black is if multiple company's all placed large orders at the same time for them. The colored option is only available to military and private security as far as I am aware.

Don't get me wrong I am a Tan lovin guy almost everything I own and run is tan or atleast tan on black. But these in my opinion are over hyped range toys that will look great but at the price tags that are coming would have a tough time tossing in a barrel in a 3 gun run... Spoken from a guy who can afford nice but can't afford to but a Gun case princess just to show off.

Correct me if I'm wrong but other than some decent externals there is nothing really diffrent or advanced than other colts and o can buy a blank for 1200$ and after upgrades and nice rails, butt stock and grip be under 2k....
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Ya The MRR isnt going to be ground breaking lol but will still be nice to see. We'll see how it feels.
 
So anyways, in no particular order the ones i think are the best.

KAC, Noveske, Barrett Rec7 gen 2, BCM, PWS mod 1, Daniel Defense(my last pick)

Ones you dont want to break the bank on in no particular order

Colt le6920, Sig M400, CC sa20 or 15.7, S&W m&P 15 sport
 
1. Nobody mentioned Rock River here did they? Was shooting one of them down in Arizona (god I love the US as I could carry one in my backseat anywhere if I lived there) and we ran for hours and never a misfire or FTE.
2. Perhaps Colt Canada should lobby the government and get Canadians to work by creating a legitimate demand for their ARs by simply UR them. After all my soon to be Modern Hunter looks like an AR from 10yds away. Gun dealers simply say they are restricted because they are popularized in movies etc. I believe that as my MH breaks down similar to ARs. The gun lobby in the US is huge why can't we turn it around here and make the lobby count with positive input from gun owners and wannabes.
 
OP in your price range and if you don't want to build your own, Go with KAC! It will save you the headaches of trying KAC later on and end up putting your basic mil-spec ARs on EE. Trust me on this one.

You might spend more upfront but will save in the end. KAC's as a package is a heck of a rifle.

For example you Pick up a Daniel Defense which is a excellent but end up spend on things like irons sights, better stock, nicer charging handle, a better trigger etc. You'll probably be close the a KAC anyways and still not have all the Ambi-features. And good luck trying to sell it at full value with all the upgrades.

Just my 2 cents.
 
Look at stag arms 3T-M

Can be had for Usd 1080

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